Friday, March 10, 2006

Barbershop 5- what are we lookin' at?

OK, I'll shut up for this post. Let's hear your theories about what you're lookin' at.

66 comments:

akira said...

jimmy's getting a high top fade!

Evan said...

The barber expressing his anger through his movements. Is that what we're lookin' at?

Chet said...

ok a few of my own-

1.eyes should be completley circular.

2.every character should have 1 smile,they should only use that one smile.

3.dont bother spending time on a drawing,you will only mess it up.

Ash said...

holy shit!!! i'm spitting flecks of saliva all over my monitor from laughing so hard

Graham said...

Nice. I love the fact that they're talking about sex while having their way with Jimmy....

Joel Bryan said...

Somebody already pointed this out, dammit! They're sublimating their own twisted urges by abusing Jimmy's head. This is a spectacular example of showing it, not telling it.

Hey! It's acting! The head thing is "business," and allows us to get a glimpse into the tormented psyches of both the barber and George Liquor... it tells us as much, maybe even more, about them as their dialogue.

This is where body language and the visual propel the story and provide character development. Subtext and all that stuff.

Joel Bryan said...

Also, for those with twisted minds, there's an off-color visual gag in the last panel.

Nicolas Martinez said...

The comic looks fantastic.

Pascal said...

Oh man Joel that made me laughed so hard when I realized it.

Steven Painchaud said...

John, I have a question for you. It's written on your IMDB bio that you were born in Chicoutimi, Qu├ębec (a city in wich I actually live). I was wondering how come someone big like you was born there?

Sorry for the bad english, I'm french Canadian.

Pascal said...

Ah I was gonna ask about the same thing since I'm from Quebec too :o

lyris said...

I don't have a clue how to word what I'm looking at, all I know is that I love it, the quality of the drawings, and all the facial expressions!

I think ignorance to this sort of thing is bliss personally...

lyris said...

Haha Joel, yikes. It almost looks ike George Liquor is doing Stimpy.

Gabriel said...

Damn, i could feel that my own theories were starting to shape up and were about to leap into the conscious plane, but were suffocated or contaminated and therefore banished to oblivion when I read Graham and Joel Bryan's ideas. They are so obviously right, I can't think anything different than that now.

Anonymous said...

A few thoughts:

Rhythm of cutting hair, monotony, subject hair itself is in closeups, shaved, a strong subject.

Stupid boys nature gives barber space and presence, when needed, underlining the dialogue.

Haircutting becomes rhythm for dialogue.

Slow change/buildup from looseness to strictness, from tangling to rhythm.

Rhythm (through framing, composition, closeups, hair, shaving and absence of faces) gives possibilities for more tempo, chaos, outburst (including expressions again)

And beautiful: bending the stupid boys neck / throwing his head after a line of closeups is feels like coming from a pan to a full stop, gives the comic a very animated feeling versus a pose to pose.

making any sense?

sanduche said...

never trust a sanduich !!

Max Konrardy said...

already covered, but a nice detail: also interesting how the barber shows disappointment in jimmy's inability to look "UP" to superiors when his superiors push him down leaving him with no entertainment than to play with his own sheddings, and to top it off, the barber commands "DOWN" contradicting his own tyrade. funny and depressing ... like life.

bab2600 said...

Again like I mentioned in the post from the last pages of comics. The story is being told through the characters and art. The expressions, movements everything. You can cut out the text and still be able to both enjoy and get a story from the pictures which is very hard to pull off (unless it is simple crap like a game of fetch with a dog). Also George refers to the kids as being "animals" meanwhile they are treating Jimmy like an animal, throwing his head around, barking commands at him etc. Very nice art and impatiently waiting for more.

Satan's Sister said...

i am not really sure but i have only a couple of ideas going on, first why police men and forrest rangers? is that some sort of boy scout reference. or whoe do young / teen boys respect these days?
the second one i am thinking /premise has lost some idea with it's change to sex. but sex sells and finally they dont to admit to it - so they trangress ot fondness of their old hippy days and their worms.
i love how you love how the hair is drawn on the neck and in the clippings - i like george looks with him looking up from the paper.

lastangelman said...

Lots of subliminmal anger and pent up frustrations being acted out on poor rag doll innocent Jimmy (I'm glad he finally lost his cherry to sody pop in the George Liquor bunker script). The wink with that goofy almost lascivious grin that George gives Harvey when he instructs Harvey to give Jimmy "whitewalls" is hilarious, an eyeball almost leering in and of itself. Harvey's eyeballs in the " ...WORMS!" panel is demented, really heightens the violence and tension. Then he is immediately relaxed and sedate in the next panel ("Down.")
This a real service you're doing John, don't be afraid to comment further. The whole episode is making me flashback to the $4.75 haircuts I got at the barbershop in Airport Plaza, Hazlet, NJ back in the seventies. Bunch of Archie Bunker types, WWII and Korean War veterans, Nixon/Agnew supporters, ultra loyal Americans that were simple, proud but twisted repressed guys hanging out, smelling like Vitalis, bemoaning the state of affairs and torturing and taunting ten year old boys.

Mitch K said...

Hrrmmm... more than one thing going on in a frame = very important.

Anonymous said...

I kind of agree with George Liquor and the other guy. They remind me of the older generations when I was a kid back in the 70s. Guys that came out of the WW2 years. I really miss them and the values they had. If you didn't agree with them, at least they were something to rebel against. Personally I think they made a lot of sense. Simon.

Trevour said...

I don't have an analysis at the moment, but I must comment on the absolute PERFECT expression caught in George's face in the "GODDAMN ANIMALS!" panel. An exact balance of anger and fear amongst the eyes and mouth.

drabhishek said...

lovely site.

Anonymous said...

More Jimmy and Sody ! More He-hog!

David Germain said...

the absolute PERFECT expression caught in George's face in the "GODDAMN ANIMALS!" panel. An exact balance of anger and fear amongst the eyes and mouth.

Yes, I love that facial expression as well. But, unfortunately, I don't think the rest of Geore's body matches that facial expression. His hands just seem to be planted there just holding Jimmy's ears. I think George should be holding a huge amount of flesh in his hands, so much that some squishes out between his fingers.
Or, better yet, maybe it could seem like George has gotten so wrapped up in his tangeant that he completely forgot that he's holding Jimmy's ears in his hands. So, he could maybe move his hands angry behind his body and thereby stratching Jimmy's ears in the process.

But that's just the one little "bugaboo" I have. I am enjoying this comic so far. Can't wait to read the rest.

Desiree said...

all the drawings are closer up in the frame. Theyre more extreme expressions. extremer movements. more action. Less is said, and more is said through face and movememnt. um goerge is now part of the Cutting hair thing helping the barber control the Young-un and palp Jimmy into position to make him look just like they think he ought to. His haircut is a result of the barbers and george's passion for their life philosophy or shall we say anger towards how the world has become. poor Jimmy is a total victim of their close minded rigid structural life style. I guess its a bonus that Jimmy is an idiot, because he's too stupid to defend himself or put an end to the crazyness that George and the Barber are creating?? Am i totally Off????

Desiree said...

OH yeah and its only jimmys hair/ head tahts in the frame. every other space is dominated by the barber, george and his razor thing......if i rememebr correctly

Anonymous said...

Beautiful artwork

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't this be "Barbershop" FIVE?

Kitty said...

Nice one!

Charlie J. said...

John,
Are you going to post up any of your REALLY old stuff, like from the 80's? I read about your first cartoon, with the chicken. Do you still have that?

Anonymous said...

Are you going to post a list of extras for the Ren & Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon DVD and a sneak peak of them?

StrangeNights said...

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http://strangenights.blogspot.com/2006/03/idiot-experiment-click-here-if-you-are.html

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Robert said...

nice pictures :-)

Anonymous said...

"Are you going to post up any of your REALLY old stuff, like from the 80's?"

My vote would be for stuff from "Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures"... or more "Ranger Smith" stuff...

k o said...

A lot of what others have said-
Sublimation of sexual frustration in the abuse heaped upon Jimmy's head and pencil/penis neck.

Forced conformity and the glee it brings out in the perps..

Jimmy is focusing on his little bit of hair, to dissociate from the action.

More emphasis on his poor neck...

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Anonymous said...

I'm really digging this story the more it progresses. Cool.

-Jordan
www.timwarnermovie.com

Gabriel said...

Heh, john got everyone scratching their heads, that's why there's fewer posts than usual.

Eric C. said...

John, When's Lost Episodes DVD coming Out ?

Andrew J. said...

Ha, I love this comic. I kind of hate when people say this, but... all the stuff that I've noticed has already been pointed out. Heh heh, I just thought I'd say something anyway because I've only commented on this awesome blog once.

Aimee Nester said...

I haven't read the rest of the comments, so this may be a repeat:
* two different stories masterfully being played out at the same time.
* There is a social commentary going on, while our friend in the chair is overwhelmed by the sensory experience of everything that is happening to him while attempting to understand it. We know this completely by his expression only which means that the illustrator gets an A+ because there is alot of storytelling going on w/out words (which is a concept missing in alot, if not most of our comics and cartoons of late; misplaced or lack of expression).
* More than one adjective can be used in conseqent frames; the story unfolds as the frames increase, gently giving the reader a lead into the story.
I hope that was ok??

Aimee Nester said...

The social commentary is that the world has gone to s*!!t every since the beatles came to America our way of life has been tainted by the hippies. George and the barber long for the good 'ole days.

The sub-theme is Jimmy's actual experience of getting the hair cut. Which actually makes the commentary funny.

Anonymous said...

this stuff is great, but the style has been copied so much it has become cliche unfortunately

Steve Stark said...

The more they talk the shorter Jimmy the Idiots hair gets.

Anonymous said...

john i reda there's gonna be loads of extras on the apc dvd! Can u give us any info of wat they are?

Gabriel said...

It just dawned to me that Jimmy represents the last portion of this changing world that the two old men can still control. They aren't really mad that the world changed, although it might appear that way superficially. They're scared! Scared of the future, and so they hang on to Jimmy, who's a good boy in George's opinion. But the truth is, he is not good, he is just an idiot, that's why he complies with his uncle and do as he is told. George would prefer a world populated by mindless morons than a world filled with people who speak their own minds but have long hair and dress clothes with fringes!

David Germain said...

I remember a similar setup on an episode of WKRP. Les Nessman was getting a haircut at a barbar shop one time. The barbar actually said to him, "I don't see too many customers these days. Men want fancy hair styles rather than just plain old cuts." I believe this episode came out in 1980-81, waaaaay after the Beatles split up and possibly before or after John Lennon was assassinated.
Oh, and also, the barbar was Les Nessman's long lost father AND a communist.
Did you get that barbar scenario from this WKRP episode John? (well, not the communist barbar part of course).

Jorge Garrido said...

Great news everbody! GALAXY HIGH SCHOOL IS COMING TO DVD! For all those who inexplicably like cartoons from the 80's!!!

benj said...

In the first page Jimmy is happy to(at last) have pubic hairs.

And at the end of page 3, Jimmy is givin' a blow job to George(in fact George is forcing jimmy to)

I agree with Graham comment:
I love the fact that they're talking about sex while having their way with Jimmy....

BTW Awesome DRAWINGS and STORY!!

Anonymous said...

Am I the only person who has always gotten their haircuts from barber shops rather than girly overpriced salons?

JohnK said...

Wow. You folks are finding things in the comic I didn't even know were there!

I guess I have the smartest fans!

Hey I have a pencil test I want to put up, but can't figure out how to do it.

Who can help me?

Anonymous said...

john, do you have a place to host it?

LONG DONG SILVA said...

pencil test woooooooooooooooo

J.D.P said...

I think its funny how the barber is saying that kids used to look *up* to the authorities while he is pushing Jimmy's head *down* to snip more hair. Im an idiot

TheChiquitaFactor said...

Let me know what kind of file it is or what you got John, I can encode it and host it.

Anonymous said...

I love how Jimmy discovers the magical sensation of rubbing cut hair between your fingers.

Anonymous said...

"Hey I have a pencil test I want to put up, but can't figure out how to do it. Who can help me?"

What's to know? Convert it to a Quicktime .mov file and let fly.

Anonymous said...

Chicoutimi misses you, John... come back.

JohnK said...

>>"Hey I have a pencil test I want to put up, but can't figure out how to do it. Who can help me?"

What's to know? Convert it to a Quicktime .mov file and let fly.

well that's done. but how do you upload it?

Desiree said...

i don't think blogger lets u upload anything taht moves. i know how to uplaod gifs??

http://thedrawingboard.sketchbooksessions.com

if u wana upload quicktime for free, all i know about is stuff like
http://video.google.com/

or http://youtube.com/

DsL said...

Depending on how public you want this to be. And i'm guessing since your willing to put it on your blog that is not really an issue, I suggest YouTube. You don't really need to know how to do anything, YouTube does it all for you.

1. First go to YouTube.com and sign up for an account, you just need a valid email address.

2. Confirm your account via the confermation email and sign in.

3. Select the far right tab titled "Upload"

4. Put in a description for your video file. You can make it searchable by putting in tags. i.e. John K, or what ever other search terms you desire.

5. After filling in the required text and information select continue and browse for the file you wish to upload. At this point you can make the video "Public" or "Private" descriptions of both are provided. Click Upload video

6. After this point you can just put a link to the video file on your blog, OR, copy and paste some "code" that YouTube automatically generates (located toward the bottom of the page).
What is nice about YouTube is that you can copy the code and just paste it into a "New Post." When you do that is actually puts the video in your blog and visiters can just click play!
It may take a little while for the video to be processed, but this seems to be a quick way to present a video in a blog nicely.

Just my two cents...
Love the site!

Max Konrardy said...

"Hey I have a pencil test I want to put up, but can't figure out how to do it.

Who can help me?"

John, not sure if you care if you have to buy Flash 8, but the new Flash video does a swell job of putting small instantly viewable stuff on blogs.

JohnK said...

OK, I got it figured out.

In a couple days look for a post about Jessica Borutski and her cool old school animation style!

z0mbi said...

"Goddamn ANIMALS!!!" I can just hear George screaming that in my head, with that nice build up in the voice, like in the old R&S cartoons.