Saturday, November 15, 2008

John K. Package Design

One of my crazy beliefs is that character merchandise should be as fun as cartoons themselves.
Kevin Kolde hired Spumco to design packages for paint projects in the mid 90s and we took what Palmer Paints were already selling with generic names and titles and rethought their products.

What was once "poster Paint" became "TV Cartoon Paint". If you were a kid, which would you rather have?

Not only do we try to make the packages look fun, we write jokes all over them too. My philosophy is to be nice to kids (and kid-like adults!). Richard Pursel and Elinor Blake and I wrote lotsa fun stuff on the packages and each one featured a message from a Hollywood cartoonist to the kids.
We made a whole bunch more paint sets. You probably don't want to see the rest though.

Spumco made toys too and so I worked with cool designers to do the packaging. The Jimmy Of The Future box was designed by the brilliant Dave Sheldon-who designed many of the retro fake-commercials in the original Ren and Stimpy cartoons.
I designed The George Liquor Talking Man box and worked with Craig Kelly who was our graphic designer.
Craig and I designed these cell painting kits, and we used to stay up all night long having laughing fits on the floor coming up with the gags that we put all over the boxes.
Craig and I almost died laughing at 4 in the morning as we tried to figure out how kids could wear a mask of a 3/4 angle of Cartoon legend Joe Barbera. Finally I said, let's clone his left ear and attach it on the right side of his head!" Then Craig said but then the eyes won't be in the middle..." He solved that quickly by adding the tab between Joe's face and his ear.

Joe loved this box when I presented it to him. He said "John, this is craaaaaazy!!" and grabbed me and dragged me into his office and showed me his shower room and his secret treasure- a poster signed to him by Michael Jackson that he kept hidden in the closet and would only show to open-minded soul mates like me.

We even wrote funny instruction booklets for the cel painting kits and they made Linda Jones really mad.

Here is the box for the Lost Episodes of Ren and Stimpy coming soon from Paramount. The famous innovator, Annmarie Ashkar designed it.
Go ahead and strain your eyes to see if you can read all the crap all over the box.

We also are working on the "Ultimate Set" which is more graphic in the design. Wanna see it?

OK, maybe I'll write more stories about these boxes later, but I have to go meet Eddie Fitzgerald for pizza and theories.
http://newwilorder.blogspot.com/
He's the guy who made the funniest short cartoon for TV in the last 10 years, I think. Starring the "Worm". TALES of WORM PARANOIA

121 comments:

Vincent Waller said...

Yes! Finally a DVD cover I like!

Anonymous said...

Great retro box designs, John! Reminds me of the toys I had as a young'un!

Two questions:

1. When is the APC DVD coming out?
2. Where can I order the George Liquor figure?

- Eric A.

Anonymous said...

Oooh, show more boxes! I've got the Spumco dolls and Jimmy paint kits proudly displayed in the den.

SUGAR CORN WASTE!

Hey, I always wanted to know, what is it that George is holding as the pencil enhancer?

benj said...

Here's the link John:
TALES of WORM PARANOIA
(Thanks to Ryan!)

Evan said...

Yeah John, can you ballpark an APC DVD date yet?

Joel Bryan said...

Yes! That's the kind of stuff that was driving me crazy in my days studying graphic disease... I couldn't do it right! There was this one girl who got it down pat... she's the webmaster for Hello Kitty now, but she could nail the futuro-retro look that I could only envy on packages like this.

Plus, there wasn't this element of Fun (with a big F) coming though. Which these have in gobs.

Although I edge more towards the Doug Wildey/Alex Toth school of drawing it's the subversive coupled with cute like these designs that really pushes my buttons.

These painters and artists you work with... wow, they are amazing! Real draftpersonship coupled with actual senses of humor. Wickedly cool.

Jorge Garrido said...

Why was Linda Jones mad? Also, of course we want to see the paint sets, what are you, stupid!?!

There's this studio called Asterik that makes packaging for CD's. They're the most creative design company in the world today. They did this one band called Dead Poetic's cd packaging as a box. You could take the booklet and mkae it into a 3D box and it came with instructions and everything. It was awesome. One CD they printed the lyrics in invisble ink and you needed a decoder to read it. Cehck it out at http://www.asterikstudio.com/

What I love about Worm Paranoia is the extreme emotion. The acting and mood of the crazy backgrounds during his fit are amazing. And the worm does amazing realstic yet funny and cartoony acting! Every drawing conveys an emotion, and he switches between his varied emotions again and again. It's such a well directed cartoon.

Jorge Garrido said...

Alex Toth? Joel, are you a fan of Space Ghost and Jonny Quest?

Gabriel said...

The Joe Barbera mask is the best!! I'd go out wearing that thing with no problem, and I'm 25!

Wicks for Candlesticks said...

Great designs!
I was wondering if you've looked into starting a Myspace page to advertise and spread the word to the younger set. That is the place where the kids are at. I couldn't find a SPUMCO page and I've stumbled across Katie's myspace. Maybe she could moderate it for you if you don't want to deal with all the annoying messages that the kids today write(with the words made out of numbers and uppercase and lowercase mixed letters..etc, etc). Apologies to those here who think of that place as pits of cybersapce but FOX paid good dough to aquire that teeming consumer-data-sampler-group- site disguised cleverly as a place for friends. So it must serve some function in selling whatever they're shilling.

Gabriel said...

Jorge, think what wouldn't John do if they let him rework Jonny Quest as he did with Yogi. That would be so cool, making he work with something he didn't like. Maybe he should take a shot at Scooby-Doo.

Nico said...

John K's To Do List:

1. Show us the Ultimate Box set picture!!
2. Post about the Worm!!
3. Tell Eddie that people are dying for him to get a blog!

Jorge Garrido said...

SUPER SECRET TV CARTOON MESSAGE! DO NOT READ:

Riddle: When TV executives tell cartoonists to change things in their cartoons, does it make the cartoons better?

Answer: "I don't remember one instance where making changes dictated by whoever was currently in a position to do that made it succesful. I don't remember that at all." Joe Barbera, the most important man in cartoons.

Man, today I bought Tom & Jerry Spotlight 2 and the Huckleberry Hound DVD. Early Hanna-Barbera goodness! It brings me back to my childhood (from 5 years ago, watching Boomerang) It's awesome with a capital Walter!

Josh Boelter said...

Cool. I can't wait to see those Ren & Stimpy lost episodes! So are all those toys off the shelves now or are they still available someplace?

Alicia said...

As a person who had Linda Jones attack me with her Emmy, I'm dying to see the cel painting guide.

Kevin Langley said...

My Jimmy paint by numbers sits proudly on my nightable still. Unfortunately my George Liqour is packed away.

Tales of Worm Paranoia is definetly one of my favorite shorts created somewhat recently along, with Bill Wray's King Crab pilot. Speaking of Eddie wasn't he supposed to start a blog? I'd love to hear what he's got to say.

Scot said...

I seem to remember seeing a lot of this stuff at the Chicago Comic Con (currently known as Wizard World) in the mid-90s. I have always been impressed by Spumco's licenced products, not only because of the design but by the pathological obscurity of the licenced products presented.

"Huckleberry Hound," while an enduring success as a Hanna-Barbara TV product, never really connected with me as a kid or as an adult. Seeing the Spumco product on the table at the booth made me interested in the character inspite of my luke-warming opinion about the characters.

I still own my Spumco Larry Fein doll though his face has seen the better part of a few eye gouges and slaps to the face. I ended up purchasing the doll because I found it fascinating that the designers were able to take the least aesthetically impressive member of the three original Stooges and give him an impressive treatment.

While touring Kitakyushu Japan, I encountered a video game shop selling Yoake no Mariko on the Playstation 2 which quickly became a conversation piece when I returned to America because of my friends' enduring love of Ren and Stimpy and general ability to recognize Spumco designs, even in a semi-three-dimensional format.

Incidently, was the "Mariko" game design experience a positive one?

Alleycat said...

We also are working on the "Ultimate Set" which is more graphic in the design. Wanna see it?

Yes Please!

Aimee Nester said...

oh, I would've loved those when I was I kid. I read everything, cereal boxes, practically anything that was placed in front of me.

Kids like to have stuff described and explained to them. Especially in the beautiful way exemplified by the packaging.

Kids do funny things... I probably would have cut that guys face out and pasted it in my doll house.

Jorge Garrido said...

When did Linda attack you, alicia?

>>Jorge, think what wouldn't John do if they let him rework Jonny Quest as he did with Yogi. That would be so cool, making he work with something he didn't like. Maybe he should take a shot at Scooby-Doo.<<

John K doesn't like Jonny Quest?! I'm going to kick his ass!! But seriously, I'd rather see a serious retelling of those awesome HB action cartoons of the pre 1969 world than a parody. I'd love to see Space Ghost done in the Fleischer Superman style, the greatest action cartoons EVER. I've never heard John's thoughts on purely action and dramatic cartoons like anime, Fleischer Superman, and Bruce Timm. Only comedy, although his comedies have drama in them (Ren Seeks Help.)

As for Scooby Doo, it's the dumbest cartoon ever. WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE IT?!?! BY FAR, The best Scooby-Doo incarnation ever was A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, and it was good, too. It was wacky and parodied itself. It had influences from the New Mighty Mouse Adventures and some Avery and Clampett, too.

I gotta stop posting here so much...

Alicia said...

It was in 2002, she was visiting and doing a show about Chuck. When I finally got the chance to talk with her, she had an Emmy with her. She was telling me about the huge hassle they gave her at customs when she wanted to bring it as a carry-on. They she proceeded to demonstrate how she would go about attacking someone with her Emmy on the flight. She came right at me screaming "Back! Back!" lunging the thing at me with it's pointy wings. I think she felt a little silly afterwards and was quite nice to me after that. Other than that freaky weird moment, she was pretty nice.

Frankie said...

I can't wait for this set to come out! I bought all 3 of the origional show sets, seeing cartoons I hadn't seen in 10 years was weird! I also hadn't seen the worm cartoon in 10 years as well, I could never remember the name or who made it. Show us more boxes! I'd even rebuy the ones I already have if theyre getting a better box. I also had no idea they sold cell painting kits with a spumco theme when I was a kid, I would buy those as well.

Scot said...

>>As for Scooby Doo, it's the dumbest cartoon ever. WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE IT?!?!<<

I have always wondered where HB got the idea for Scooby Doo. I mean, where is the precedent for crimes committed using the illusion of supernatural phenomenon as a cover? I know that is over-analyzing a cartoon featuring teenaged detectives and a talking dog but what depths of Will and Joe's subconscious needed to be rattled for that cartoon to happen... and this is coming from a guy who doesn't find the Johnny Quest concept particularly odd.

Scot said...

I should add that Scooby Doo is to the Cartoon Network what The Incredible Hulk was to the early Sci-Fi Channel schedule. Overplayed, overappreciated.

Gabriel said...

You mean the Hulk live action series? Those were great! I don't care about Lou Ferrigno's wig, it was still so much better than that stinky movie.
Heh, we discuss all sorts of things in this blog's comments, I wonder if John gets pissed about our rants when it goes to subjects that have nothing to do with his original post.

Nicolas Martinez said...

Yes! You kept the original APC cover.

Marc Deckter said...

More Wacky The Crow!

Mitch K said...

I used to save the boxes to all my toys as a kid. Actually, I still do. Very cool box designs, buddy. Gives me something fun to read.

Although, what happened to Nick's APC painting? I really like his, and yours... I don't know which one I like more, because they're both different, and they're both really neat.

Tell Eddie to get a damn blog up already!

PS: What do you like on your pizza? I like lots of mushrooms on mine.

Joel Bryan said...

Jorge- I'm a big fan of "Johnny Quest!" The animation is pretty limited and they reused a lot of footage like the rest of Hanna-Barbera's tv output but it had the feel of a classic Bond flick. I love the look of it- dark comic bookish shadows... but moving. It just looks cool.

I'm not as enamored of "Space Ghost," but I love the space ships and alien dudes on there. One of my favorite comic artists, Steve Rude, was influenced heavily by that style. Rude and Toth can flat out draw, man.

Toth's designs got consistently destroyed in the final products. I've seen some of his model sheets and they rock.

JohnK said...

>>
Hey, I always wanted to know, what is it that George is holding as the pencil enhancer?

Ha ha. He's holding a fat spatula and barbecue tongs.

They have to be fat or they would break off.

R2K said...

That is cool stuff, I love RnS...

R2K

Brian Romero said...

I thought the booklets about cartooning and animation that came with those kits were hilarious! I recall some line telling kids to 'run down the hallway screaming, only stopping to kick holes in the wall'. My Spumco kits are in storage until I move to LA later this year.

WIL said...

WARNING:
SHAMELESS PLUG AHEAD

"Tales of Worm Paranoia" is my favorite "What A Cartoon!" short ever!

Until his blog goes up, I've taken the liberty of posting a small collection of Eddie Fitzgerald's creations:

EDDIE FITZGERALD DAY!

Pat Lewis said...

John, thanks so much for keeping this blog. It's good to know that we (the consumers) have someone out there fighting to give us MORE for our entertaiment/toy/merchandise dollars, not less. Not everyone may share your taste, and that's okay--the point is, more folks could stand to have standards as high and demanding as yours. Keep up the great work, sir!

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking the "Hippie Lady bosses" comment was a bit much... just a bit.

Sketch said...

Awesome DVD box art.

Jeremy said...

I bought a mega log from palisadestoys and although the toy was cool, (I mean, everyone wants a log right?), I found the packaging really stunk...

nightwing said...

what ever happened to the "What A Cartoon" show...that thing was the best

bab2600 said...

Tales of Worm Paranoia is hysterical. I loved the worm with a peace sign necklace that dragged behind him. The animation is so fluent and loose. Another good cartoon is Buy One Get One Free. Jim Smith, Chris Reccardi, Bob Jaques, Lynne Naylor, Mike Fontanelli, Craig McCracken,Charlie Bean, Scott Wills. The animation, music and art reminded me a lot of Tex Averys Cats Meow cartoon and Dixie Land Droopy. Also the colors and backgrounds reminded me a lot of the New Adventures of Mighty Mouse.

While I was living in Japan I could not find the Spumco voice acting game for the PS2 anywhere! I searched all over Tokyo for it. Also Scooby-Doo I beleive was based on a radio show at the time. Ruby Speares was the team up I believe behind Scooby-Doo and pretty much ripped the idea entirely from the radio show. I am not 100% sure if this is correct. Of course we all know the countless spawns that were pumped out after Scooby-Doos success.

tomcat said...

Tales of Worm Paranoia gives me hope for humanity.

I was laughing during the whole thing.

ryan said...

>>Until his blog goes up, I've taken the liberty of posting a small collection of Eddie Fitzgerald's creations:

thanks so much for posting, awesome!!!

lastangelman said...

Great designs, one and all, as a famous leprachaun once said, they're magically delicious! Are there any plans for Spumco to get back in the toy and crafts(paint sets) business? A Spumco/Flintstones paint set would be a red hot seller!

Except for the excerpts on the APC website, I've not seen Nude Beach Party, Stimpy's Pregnant (I correctly guessed the true outcome, remembering Son Of Stimpy)and The Altruists, so I eagerly await the "Lost" episodes DVD. It'd be nice to watch Onward and Upward without Gary The Rat promos at the bottom the screen. I hate to say this, since I consider this episode to be the best (and most dramatic) episode of R&S (at least since Son Of Stimpy), but I feel that Ren Gets Help needs a Part 2 to the story.
I have ideas ... if you're interested!
Also thanks to link to Eddie Fitz's Tales Of Worm Paranoia on YouTube. His warped but wonderful talent shines like gamma rays. He must have have busted a gut making the squoosh sounds. This is another great cartoon with lotsa pause button whoa, looka dat moments.

nightwing said...

say john...ive been wondering this, and it may be a stupid question, but where did the name spumco come from

Anonymous said...

Is the "Ultimate" set going to have the lost ren and stimpy episodes? Or is the Ultimate set something different? I already bought that first season Ren and Stimpy set with all the spumco episodes..

Oh and these packages are great...I have the Jimmy of the Future and the George Liquor doll (George was a birthday present)


-Jordan

Anonymous said...

Nice. I loved Ren & Stimpy APC and was disappointed when I heard that there were episodes made that I couldn't see. I guess I should've been glad that they were made at all because now I can enjoy them when the DVD is released. Hopefuly it will sell well enough to catch the eye of a rich investor with a penchant for top-of-the-line cartoons.

lyris said...

I loved Tales of Worm Paranoia, especially the obvious R&S influences (bloodsucking mosquitoes).

>> "We made a whole bunch more paint sets. You probably don't want to see the rest though."

Are you kidding? Of course we do! More covers! And any more info on Lost Episodes, and especially Ultimate, if you can, would be great!

Duck Dodgers said...

Agree wit Lyris : More infos o the upcoming dvd sets!

Are the shorts from the first and second season being to be released fully uncut!
I do not want a repeat of the fist package: it was all cut!

R2K said...

Yeah that is annoying.

Bono is Brian Peppers!

Cartooncrank said...

As the internet's ranking animation historian expert, who is also a veteran of this thing we call the animated cartoon industry, I say with boxes like these, there is really no reason to worry about putting anything in them! What product could possibly measure up?

The Cartooncrank has spoken!

JohnK said...

>> say john...ive been wondering this, and it may be a stupid question, but where did the name spumco come from

We had a character named Raymond Spum (an enemy of He Hog) and we were looking for a name for our studio so I said "Spumco" and everyone laughed so that was it.

>>

Agree wit Lyris : More infos o the upcoming dvd sets!<<

OK, soon!

>> Are the shorts from the first and second season being to be released fully uncut!<<

They will be on the Ultimate Set and will be much less cut, hoepfully not at all, but it's hard to find the original prints, because there have been 15 years and a few generations of Nickelodeon execs, each with their own set of new things to cut out to protect you.

RoboTaeKwon-Z said...

Great DVD cover! YOu sent the airbrush masters packing!
I am a proud owner of a George Liqour doll still in the box due to the fact that the box is so funny!
I want to see more!!!

Anonymous said...

JOHN - READ THIS.

The word "shameful" is misspelled on the back of the DVD box. You might want to stop the presses for a minute or two to spellcheck that otherwise masterful packaging...

Anonymous said...

"They will be on the Ultimate Set and will be much less cut, hoepfully not at all, but it's hard to find the original prints, because there have been 15 years and a few generations of Nickelodeon execs, each with their own set of new things to cut out to protect you."

How on God's foul earth could some asspipe exec cut content out of something and NOT leave an untouched copy elsewhere?

(More to the point: don't animators keep a copy of this stuff for themselves before shipping it off? I don't know, I'm asking is all...)

lyris said...

That's good to hear about the Ultimate set, John.

If there's any scenes that the DVD people can't track down, give me a shout because I have good copies of all of the Spumco shorts uncut and already have the scenes on my computer as clean as they can be.

I mean - a slightly lower quality copy of one scene is better than no scene at all, right? At least, that's the idea Paramount had when they added the timecoded scene back into Sven Hoek.

lyris said...

^^^ That is, scenes that were in the original Nickelodeon airings - I'm not sure if you're referring to all new footage that the outside world hasn't ever seen before, or what.

Clarke (Csnyde) said...

As someone who unfortuantley works with packaging at my shit dayjob, I must applaud these beautiful examples of fun & inventive packaging done right, which is no easy task in todays marketplace.

We have become so bland in our demands for intertesting packaging that it is just a shame. Especially when it comes to packaging for kids products and things that are supposed to be obnoxiously fun. I can't remember the last time I saw something on the shelf that caught my attention because of how it was packaged.

The biggest packaging crime is in the cereal ailse though. it's downright shameful and embarrasing to walk through there and see that the most eye catching thing is that Fruit Loops now have 1/3 less sugar.

There's a great book out there about the art of the advertising character that is just full of the sort of fanatstic and appealing artowrk that we used to see on everything from hemerhoid cream to lollypops. I highly recommend it if you want to see just how far removed we have become from anything artistically appealing in the world of packaging.

JohnK said...

>>The word "shameful" is misspelled on the back of the DVD box. You might want to stop the presses for a minute or two to spellcheck that otherwise masterful packaging...

I think we corrected that already but will double check. Thanks for your eagle eye!

Aggie said...

That sure is a fun-looking cover for the "Lost Episodes" boxset. 'Satisfies your most urgent adult needs'. Hehehe. Can't wait for it to come out!

And I loooooved Tales of Worm Paranoia. Where did Eddie come up with an idea like that? (I guess I'll have to wait until he gets a blog in order to ask him.. la di da..)

Duck Dodgers said...

Lyris my friend, please help John k to release the cartons uncut!

E. Adam Thomas said...

We want to see Eeeverytheeeng!!! Are you Mad? We want to see every doodle you have ever made, from characatures of Mr. Spock on a cocktail napking on the night you visited your first topless bar, to the portrait of George Liquor as the Pope that you won't let anyone see because of, well, certain bulges in certain places.

We crave to own and see everything...

Question is, do we deserve it?

I've been a ba-a-a-ad boy, Abbott!

(Geez, what are they putting in my coffee over here?)

E. Adam Thomas said...

>>"The word "shameful" is misspelled on the back of the DVD box. You might want to stop the presses for a minute or two to spellcheck that otherwise masterful packaging...<<

If it hasn't gone through yet, you should let a few dozen go out with the misspelling...

Can we say "Rare collector's item?"

benj said...

Great PACKAGING!
Can't wait to OWN IT!

hope you don't mind ....
here's a plug for the unofficial spumco site:

CLICK HERE YOU BLOATED SACK OF PROTOPLASM!!

MAKINITA said...

oh man i been waiting for this a loonggggggg time when when BUY BUY !!!

Jeff Pidgeon said...

Great stuff, John! Harkening back to the days when you'd want to keep the packaging as well as the toy!

JohnK said...

Hey Benj,

I just went to your site to look at the Big House Blues stills but they wouldn't load. Is there something wrong?

I want to do a post about the BGs I painted for that cartoon, and I will put a link to you in it.

Duck Dodgers said...

John,

do you like my blog?

There's even an old post devoted to " Naked Beach Frenzy" !!!

Let me know!! I'd love to know your thoughts about it!
You are my hero!!!

http://classiccartoons.blogspot.com/

Duck Dodgers said...

You just have to ckick on my name and you will find the direct link to my blog.......

MAKINITA said...

HI JOHN LOOK AT A CARTOON I MADE HERE TELL ME WHAT YA THINK
CHEERS
MAKINITA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIeD6bloqZE

JohnK said...

>>Duck Dodgers said...

John,

do you like my blog?

Yeah, a lot!

Put up some frame blowups from Tortoise Wins By a Hare, Bucaroo Bugs, Eatin' On The Cuff, Kitty Kornered or Gruesome Twosome and I'll do a whole post about it and link to you!

Or do a pile of Frame blowups of Daffy from "Great Piggy Bank Robbery" saying' "What'll I do? It looks like a Piggy Bank crime wave!I'll call that detec-i-tive, Duck Twacy!"

All the crazy close up Scribner drawings!

Your pal,

John

=shane white= said...

Good Gravy!!! These are great. But what kind of budget let you get all creative like that?
Any time I've ever had to do packaging design (except for Jose Cuervo) we'd have fairly limited budget and couldn't do all the die-cut, odd shaped windowed containers.

=s=

Jorge Garrido said...

>>>Toth's designs got consistently destroyed in the final products. I've seen some of his model sheets and they rock.<<<

I saw an amazing dynamic storyboard he did for SUPERFRIENDS with moody lighting and dramatic angles that didn't transer at ALL to the show. They mangled it!

benj said...

JohnK said...Is there something wrong?


Yes..... don't know why some of the images wasnt loading a minute after I posted the link and now the site is down... but there's something wrong with the server 'cause my personnal site is down too.

Should be fix really soon... :/

I want to do a post about the BGs I painted for that cartoon, and I will put a link to you in it.


Cool!!!! :D

Jitterbug said...

Goldilocks and the Jivin' Bears!

I love that Cartoon, though my bootleg copy looks crapy. Seeing those stills made we wish that WB would wise up and release those old cartoons.

Duck Dodgers said...

John K said :

Yeah, a lot!

Put up some frame blowups from Tortoise Wins By a Hare, Bucaroo Bugs, Eatin' On The Cuff, Kitty Kornered or Gruesome Twosome and I'll do a whole post about it and link to you!


I already made a post about Kitty Kornered ; A Gruesome Twosome; tin Pan Alley Cats and Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarfs.

Here's the links :

http://classiccartoons.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_classiccartoons_archive.html


I'll made in the near future some posst about the cartoons you mentioned that I have in dvd format.

Look at my post about Naked Beach Frenzy and assorted Spumco things!!

http://classiccartoons.blogspot.com/2005_12_01_classiccartoons_archive.html


Let me know what do you think!!

I'm going to open a post right now only to let you be able to post about my blog and my posts and the cartoons that you love.

benj said...

in the meantime,(while unofficialspumco.com is down)
I re-put the old site up (some updates are missing)....
CLICK HERE!

BTW Duck Dodgers; your BLOG is awesome.... but you already know that. KEEP IT UP!!!

Duck Dodgers said...

BENJI tHANKS,

BUT YOUR WEBSITE IS BETTER THAN MY POOR BLOG..AND YOU KNOW THAT TOO!

POST MORE PICTURES FROM WEEKEND PUSSY HUNT, PLEASE!!!

z0mbi said...

Hey, I've got that Huckleberry Hound paintset sitting right here in my cube, next to my Future Jimmy and George Liquor dolls, and my life-size log.

Eebs said...

I work in advertising, for a company in the "tween market niche." It's great to see your take on packaging (we do a good deal of that). It strikes a good balance between treating kids like fun loving kids and treating kids like they aren't idiots. You don't have to dumb down designs for kids to like them.

Anonymous said...

We love You !

Sam said...

Hey John, is it true that you worked with Matt Groening on somthing?

Eebs said...

JohnK--

I can't email you, but check out www.wondergroup.com (WonderGroup is the ad agency) and e-mail me any time!

redrabbit[at]gmail.com

lyris said...

"Lyris my friend, please help John k to release the cartons uncut!"

I've put together a big list of all the cuts we know of and sent it to John to pass on to the DVD people, so they should be using it to check.

Also my contact info is in there so hopefully they'll ask if they need any help! Here's hoping!

Anonymous said...

"Meet Dave Feiss - Creator of 'Cow & Chicken'!"

Oboy! I loved "I Am Weasel"!

Duck Dodgers said...

lyris wrote :

I've put together a big list of all the cuts we know of and sent it to John to pass on to the DVD people, so they should be using it to check.

Also my contact info is in there so hopefully they'll ask if they need any help! Here's hoping!


Why you don't put that list online and post the link here in this blog?
So it will be easier for John to watch it.

benj said...

Unofficial Spumco.COM is working now and the big house blues stills are fixed!

And I added a couple of things too.
ENJOY!
-Benjamin A.

Eric C. said...

YES JOHN,

I WANT TO SEE THE ULTIMITE DVD COVER!

When's The Lost Episodes Coming Out, Is it this Month ?

Your Awsome John, Your My 2nd Idol.

_Eric

Jitterbug said...

Unofficial Spumco.COM is working now and the big house blues stills are fixed!

And I added a couple of things too.
ENJOY!


Cool site!

Anonymous said...

Swweet cover!!

Anonymous said...

I dont know about the rest of you ass-kissers, but I think the character on the lost episodes cover look pretty damn terrible.

Did concepts like no tangents, clear silouhette, and strong posing go right out the window? I mean...whats the deal with the girl's hand? And that rendering? Looks like it was done by an art student who just figured out photoshop?

I know all you nuthuggers are going to freak out and start whining about my anonomyity....but ask yourself...as artists...are any of these complaints actually valid?

And just to let you guys know I'm not all hate, I think the rest of the covers kick serious arse!

Josh "Just What the Doctor Ordered" Heisie said...

Holy crap...I wish more people made packages interesting.

As I've read you saying before, kids should be able to sit and read their cereal boxes for days in a row at breakfast...not just at some craptastic maze or advertisement on the back.

I hope more people take your lead and make fun boxes.

Josh "Just What the Doctor Ordered" Heisie said...

By the way, I like the cover of the Lost Episodes...and no, I'm not just sucking up.

Although, the girl isn't as attractive as she COULD be, she looks more anorexic than cuddly. Red Hot Riding Hood was a sexier cartoon girl...but I love the box none the less.

Pedro Vargas said...

hey john!

those toys and the tv cartoon paint packagings are the best. sadly i don't own one. they might have some in ebay lying around and i'm glad you found that eddie fitzgerald cartoon. god did it blow me AWAY!! it might be the best cartoon i've seen so far! John I'd love to do some paintings for you one day!! that'd be a killer job!

Stephen Worth said...

Even Ren's eyeballs have clear silhouettes.

See ya
Steve

ASIFA-Hollywood Animation Archive

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, after reading your criticism of The girl painting on the Lost Episodes cover I went back and took another look at it. Sure enough the hand was a bit off. This is serious stuff. 1,000,000 more gaffs like that and John'll be down to the level of his nearest competitor (whoever that might be...I've never thought about it). I've seen the rest of the artwork, including the booklet inside and I think you'll be very, very happy with it. I also just saw a nearly finished version of John and Katie's Weird Al video. It's unbelivable! Pure cartoon Heaven!

-Eddie F

Joel Bryan said...

Strong posing? For what this is, I think this pose is as strong as needs be. The idea looks to me like a beach snapshot, not high adventure.

Either a lower angle or higher angle might make the pose more dynamic, like a superhero pose or something... but I don't see that as necessary. The "fun" of the image carries over a long way.

Silhouette? I think the figure's outlines break the blobbiness of the silhouette enough. Ren's left hand juts out pretty far, and there's negative space created by the girl's right arm and underleg area. The figures could possibly be spaced a little more apart to break it up more, but then you're dealing with the constraints of image area.

Tangents? I see two. One is Stimpy's left hand just meeting the line of Ren's upper lip and there's another where Ren's own left thumb dinks up against his ass, but they're not immediately noticeable. I think if the rest of the image weren't so busy, they'd stick out more. Am I missing more than that?

There might be more with the copy and the other artwork, but frankly, I think I'd go insane trying to map out or diagram the whole package.

And as far as the rendering goes, that's totally subjective. I think it's great and I wish I could paint like that.

It's a looser feel, like the old paperback illustrations or storybook illos from the 60s and 70s before computers and airbrushing took over and trained people to expect super-slick, ultra-clean artwork. To me, the visible brushstrokes make the characters pop more. Not everything has to be clean.

The girl's hand... well, that's maybe the weakest element in the whole thing.

But the suntan oil texture of the girl's skin and the light/dark contrast of her tanlines is an extra wacky touch that imparts a... well... crazy element of sexiness.

It's a specific choice you either like or dislike but attacking it as studentlike? I think your other points are valid if a bit stretched, but that one's totally unfair.

Don't see it the same way you do.

Could it be better? Hell, anything could be better. You could push and push until everything is exactly so and deconstruct it and critique it down to the tiniest brushstroke, but then we'd be killing the image, taking the life right out of it.

It's fun, it's cool. Almost any multi-figure composition is going to be problematic. But the main thing is, it's a fun cartoony image with a bit of pulchritude and some grotesque veiny things going on with Ren's face and body. So it's got the perfect blend of modern Spum gross out aesthetic and retro ad illos.

Stephen Worth said...

Eddie "The Punisher"!

Yeah, Eddie! I love those drawings of yours at Wil's site. I asked Wil to bring them by the Archive some time so I can scan them into the database.

See ya
Steve

ASIFA-Hollywood Animation Archive Blog

j David p said...

I was just wondering why cartoonist mostly give their characters four fingers instead of five? Who started this and why?

akira said...

do you get a lot of strange job offers that you turn down, like designing cereal boxes?
i'd definitely buy your cereal so i had something good to look at while i'm eating breakfast. maybe other foods should have entertaining packaging too so you can look at food packages while you eat lunch and dinner too. the only bad thing about your package designs is i'd never want to throw it away.
..
oh and how about selling some t-shirts, or is that small potatoes?

Anonymous said...

http://www.steeltoed.net/cher/imi/media/redHotRidingHood.jpg

John Pannozzi said...

Extremly nice stuff. The quote about not watching anything with the word "Toons" in it seems a bit hypocritical retroactively considering that John K. and the Spumco crew later on worked on the game "Go! Go! Hypergrind" (an interesting game, BTW) which takes place in the "Toon World". But don't take it personally, John K. And I agreed wholeheartedly with Josh "Just What the Doctor Ordered" Heisie that the gal on the Lost Episodes cover looks a little too skinny to be truly "cute" in my opinion. But the cover still looks excellant. And BTW, the cuts on the previous Ren & Stimpy DVDs weren't because of Nickelodeon, they were because of Spike TV. Spike TV's "Digitaly Remasted" Ren & Stimpy Classics restored some stuff that Nick cut (like the "Bring the kids" line in Out West for example), but cut and/or time-compressed a LOT of stuff that was never touched on Nick.

Kristen McCabe said...

I'm digging the packaging especially the one for The Lost Episodes of Ren and Stimpy. The girlie on the cover is great! I like her tummy!

WIL said...

"I was just wondering why cartoonist mostly give their characters four fingers instead of five? Who started this and why?"

They're just bad at math.

CORKY said...

HAHA wow jeebus I really loved seeing this stuff up close!! You are the coolest! Sweet Jesus!

Anyone who can stay within the inner child thing are some of the coolest peopleses ever!!

Sorry I havn't been around..I miss everyone on the inter-frikken-net and it's all because of this blasted retarded homework. Can you please give me a huge whopping papercut across my juggular!? Joke joke.

PS I don't hate you nor am I avoiding you just to letcha know (you are the coolest)

PPS I can't keep up with your wonderfully update blog entries...I wish I had that much to show. Golly!

-CORK

lyris said...

>> Why you don't put that list online and post the link here in this blog?
So it will be easier for John to watch it.

The list is at

http://lyris-lite.net/rs/

It's messy looking but does the job. I literally threw it together as fast as I could because I wasn't sure when Ultimate was meant to be out!

Andre Moore said...

i Have that Jimmy Of The Future in my office at work. Not in the box anymore. Can i mail it to you and have you sign it for me?

Anonymous said...

John! Please I need to know where I can view The Goddamn George Liquor Show cartoons on the web if at all

RyanFabian said...

The MASK!!!! It's amazing! I wonder how many people would get it...

I signed up for this thing when I heard John K. had a blog and I had to be a part of it!

I know the question has been asked before but where the hell can I BUY this stuff?

-Ryan

Count Screwloose said...

John's imposing stentorian tones have actually frightened me into loving classic cartoons!

Oh...

Ultimate Set! Ultimate Set!

RG

Ju-osh said...

These products really do work! I bought a bunch of the cel painting kits from my town's local last-stop-before-the-liquidation-fire-Mart. I never did paint the cels provided (but they are beauts!), but I did make and paint a cel caricature of my best friend, and now she's my girlfriend!

THIS TESTIMONIAL IS %100 LEGIT AND IS IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH JOHN K, SPUMCO, OR THE FOLKS AT HANNA BARBERA.

John Pannozzi said...

Will Stinky Wizzleteats's hilarious introduction to the second part of Fire Dogs 2 be on the Lost Episodes DVD.

Eric C. said...

The First Message, Was that really Vincent Waller or a fan Wanna be?

_Eric

Eric C. said...

The First Message, Was that really Vincent Waller or a fan Wanna be?

_Eric

Duck Dodgers said...

John K said :

Or do a pile of Frame blowups of Daffy from "Great Piggy Bank Robbery" saying' "What'll I do? It looks like a Piggy Bank crime wave!I'll call that detec-i-tive, Duck Twacy!"

All the crazy close up Scribner drawings!


- I will do it soon.

lyris said...

John, you've probably caught these already now, but on the back of the pack, the legal blurb at the bottom has "Licensed for sale only in US and Canada" included twice. Once after the warning about some features not working on all players, and once again after the Paramount address. On top of that I think the first warning has an extra dot at the end of it where there should only be one.

Not major but probably the kind of thing I should point out.

Anonymous said...

Goddamnit, I love you John K! (in a non-sexual, man-loving-his-favorite-cartoonist-type-of-way)

El Davo the Magnificent said...

Oh Goodness, after veiwing the cover of The Lost episodes, I do believe I shall need not just new pants, but a whole new wardrobe.

Congratulations to John & his stick it to those bastard censors, & setting off a 6 pant alarm felt from here to the republic of Slovakia
Huzzah

Chris Sobieniak said...

Heh, being reminded of the fun I had doing those cel painting kits and reading that material! They don't make products likle that anymore. :-(

Anonymous said...

Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarfs may be good animation but you probably wont find it on T.V. because its a racist cartoon.

You can't be that stupid.

Jimbo said...

John you are my biggest influence! Love your work and being able to read about your current projects online is awesome..

This is not spam - but would love you to check out some of my toons at www.pubba.net ! Its my dream to improve my animation skills and somehow work with you one day..

Cant wait for the DVD !

Paul B said...

great stuff john!!!

napsmear said...

Its june 2007 has the Ultimate Ren & Stimpy Collection
been released yet?

If not WHEN?...if so WHERE?