Thursday, July 20, 2006

Chuck Jones, more rebellion, Tom Thumb In Trouble (1940)



WARNER BROTHERS CARTOON FILMOGRAPHY 1940

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wonder if I'm the only one who finds that incredibly creepy.
I also wonder why Paul Bunyan is his dad....

I don't really care said...

Eek. I forgot all about that one. Did he do anything worse? THE EGG COLLECTOR, from the same year, was a lot more fun. I grew up with a kid we called Worm, cus he looked like Jones' Bookworm.

Gavin Freitas said...

I forgot about this cartoon. And yeah he did look a little like the bookworm. Chuck Jones is the man! That really sucks that Bob Clampett and Chuck didnt get along. And Chuck didnt acknowledge him as the "founding fathers" of Bugs Bunny--thats the only thing I didnt agree with Chuck on (and the Dot and the Line-Sorry but it was horrible). I dont care how much you dont like someone personaly, but you should always acknowledge there work for what it is..........

I don't really care said...

And yeah he did look a little like the bookworm.

You knew the same kid?

Jorge Garrido said...
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C. A. M. Thompson said...

I've never seen this cartoon. Amazingly well constructed animation (Bob McKimson?), but early Chuck Jones moved so slow. Slower than Disney. Such a contrast to Clampett who would have more things happening in a seven minute cartoon than happen in about ten other cartoons combined.

Jorge Garrido said...

That's really cute! Not funny, but cute! This wasn't rotoscoped was it?

Anonymous said...

MORE ANIMATION SCHOOL LESSONS JOHN!!!!

Jorge Garrido said...

>>John K: No. And they don't do a heck of a lot of marketing on the stuff either. I mean, why don't they get me on Conan O'Brien and stuff?

TV.com: I can't believe you haven't been on Conan and the late-night talk shows.

John K: Well, I can't either! If we showed some clips from these new DVDs on talk shows, I am sure they would sell like crazy. People just need to know about it. <<

I thought cartoon scriptwriters were your enemy. (But I still think Conan's scripts for The Simpsons were brilliant.)

k9_kaos said...

I never knew that Chuck Jones used to make cartoons like this. I've always thought he specialised in comedy, like Tom and Jerry and Road Runner. I sometimes kind of like cute cartoons, as long as they're still fun to watch and are not sickly sentimental. The Fleischers' Dizzy Red Riding Hood is one of my favourites from this category.

JohnK said...

>>I sometimes kind of like cute cartoons, as long as they're still fun to watch and are not sickly sentimental. The Fleischers' Dizzy Red Riding Hood is one of my favourites from this category.

<<

I love that cartoon, but never in a million years would have thought of it as "cute"!

k9_kaos said...

John K said:
"I love that cartoon, but never in a million years would have thought of it as "cute"!"

:)
Ah, could it be the subtle sexual references? That's part of the reason I love it. Like when Betty's garter keeps falling down, and as she bends over to pull it up, Bimbo (dressed as a wolf) is spying on her from behind a tree!

"I'd think she'd like a pansy, the fairies like them too."
Could this be the world's first gay joke?

Brett W. Thompson said...

Hmmm, interesting.

While I can definitely appreciate the technique and skill behind it (I can't draw or animate like that), honestly, I find it to be fairly boring (kappappa's right, it's so slow!).

I'm realizing I like fast animation a lot (Tex Avery's fast stuff and of course Clampett and "Dead Leaves", an amazing anime)...

Also, this looks so Disney!! Didn't Chuck want to work for them at one point?

Gavin Freitas said...

>>You knew the same kid?. <

Oh shit sorry. I was referring to the cartoon. How I thought that you thought the kid in this sequence looked like the bookworm from the other Looney tune cartoons that Chuck Jones did (Night Watchman). --Haha Funny Shit

The GagaMan(n) said...

Ugh, that was by Chuck? I thought I was watching a scene from Gullivers Travels there. As much as I love the Fleischers stuff, I hated that film.

lastangelman said...

While I was kind of charmed by these Jones cartoons as a kid, it makes me wonder now why Jones didn't up and leave Warner's and work for Disney? No confidence?

Clinton said...

this same style was done in a porky pig short where he was taught american history; the detailed animated caricatures.

John said...

It's a unique short for Warners, but that's mainly because it was 3-4 years behind the times -- by the time Jones made this cartoon, even Disney had gotten out of the overly-mauldin short subject competition, and was having his directors focus on stuff like Donald, Pluto and Goofy. But at least Chuck got the hint from Schlesinger to start gaging up his work faster than Hugh Harman and Rudy Ising over at MGM, who never would pay attention to Fred Quimby about shifting away from little melodramas and into straight out comedy cartoons and emded up being ushered out (or took the hint and left) in favor of Avery.

Franky said...

John, That filmography you posted just makes me want a chronological boxed set even more than before.

A chronological boxed set could be looked upon as a historical record and then people's qualms about certain cartoons can be somewhat allayed because it's not in the context of someone putting a collection together based on taste.

Anonymous said...

"it makes me wonder now why Jones didn't up and leave Warner's and work for Disney? No confidence?"

Well, I'm pretty sure he tried to get a job there around or before that time, and was turned down. Disney's had something to say about it! ; )

Remember, the young Chuck Jones, while very good, wasn't nearly as good a draftsman as he became, and add to that that he worked for a studio already that practically marked him as a "no way" candidate for Disneys. The Disney studio believed at that time that they did best with completely fresh, straight out of art school top draftsman to train for new animators; if anything they were hugely prejudiced against anyone who got their training somewhere else(almost anyone--there are a few exceptions, mostly not in the animation dept.). I don't agree with this mindset and don't think it was fair, but also remember Disneys was the HUGEST, most famous, most Tiffanys of animation studios then; they had their pick of literallly thousands of the best artists in the country to choose from to hire. I believe Chuck had a chip on his shoulder his entire life about this, and felt cheated that he didn't work on "Bambi", etc...not that that stopped him from making some incredible cartoons...and the irony is that of course he was MUCH better off at WB than he'd have ever been at Disney. But it was the most prestigious place to work, no doubt about that, and Chuck always felt he deserved a job there. He finally got one, after WB closed in the later 50s, but by then he was a pretty intractable man and not the kind of guy who could take a back seat anywhere, so he left after a few months. There's stuff about that in an interview with Ward Kimball at Mickael Barrier's site

I don't really care said...

Does anyone know why Chuck Jones became Colonel Sanders?

Dr.Awkward said...

>> Does anyone know why Chuck Jones became Colonel Sanders?
<<

Come to think of it, he DID look like a thinner version of Sanders!

Shawn said...

>>Does anyone know why Chuck Jones became Colonel Sanders? <<

LOL. Chuck Jones was actually trying to become Mark Twain. Don't ask me why.

Jeremiah said...

C'mon, dude. Mark Twain was hot.

P.C. Unfunny said...

Dsoe anybody remember the Chuck Jones toon " Porky Pig in: Wearing of the grin" ? I think that's one the weirdest cartoons he did for Warner Brothers.

David Germain said...

Chuck Jones was actually trying to become Mark Twain. Don't ask me why.

Because he was a huge Mark Twain fan. Not alot of explanation is needed really.

Anonymous said...

The film director Robert Altman is now sporting that "southern gentleman/philosopher" look also.

Jeremiah said...

Okay, quick poll. How many of us here are wearing a white suit, bow tie and glasses?

I can't be the only one.

I don't really care said...

Because he was a huge Mark Twain fan. Not alot of explanation is needed really.

I'm a huge Marilyn Monroe fan, but everytime I dress like her, I have to explain it to somebody.

Jorge Garrido said...

Wow, I just read in Barrier's great book that this was NOT rotoscoped, it's just an example of what Bob McKimson was capable of! Jones used McKimson for his early Disney style cartoons because he was Leon's top animator, and from these clips it's not hard to see why!

Dr.Awkward said...

>> I'm a huge Marilyn Monroe fan, but everytime I dress like her, I have to explain it to somebody.
<<

You like to crossdress? Keep that info to yourself, man!

Jeremiah said...

And with that, all the fun quickly dissipates into an awkward silence.

Anonymous said...

Beautifully done, but utterly soul-less, rather typical of Jones from this period. In later periods, Jones' outstanding sense of craft (and Mike Maltese's scripts) overcame his profound lack of "soul".
Chris

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