Monday, September 11, 2006

Krakatoa - Carlo Vinci dancing

Just to put it in context, here is some of Carlo's "full-animation" from a 40s Terrytoon. He was using his broken-wrist/collapsing joints theories way back when. The Terrytoons directors always gave him the dance scenes and you can spot his style a mile away.
Carlo moves things as if he invented animation himself and had never seen anyone else's animation. He made up all his own rules. He doesn't use simple lines of action like the Disney animators did. Instead he uses zigzagged poses that to most animators would seem awkward.
I used to notice that about his Flintstone poses when I was a kid and I loved it. I learned early that the kind of stuff I liked most didn't fit a mold. It had to be skilled, but also needed to stand out and be a little "off" - like Carlo Vinci.






Carlo Vinci is one of the most original animators in history. I will show you some of his early 30s stuff soon. It's still recognizably him but a different and cuter drawing style.




25 comments:

Kali Fontecchio said...

That dancing is hypnotic- if only people could dance like cartoons!

I love the poses in the third picture down!

Gabriel said...

Great clips, I wish i could see the whole cartoon. I don't know much about terrytoons but I don't understand why the bad reputation. Jim Tyer is amazing, and Carlo Vinci seems cool too.
I wish i could see how he breaks the line of action. My eyes are uneducated I have enough trouble trying to figure it out even on cartoons where it's supposed to be straight forward.

David C. Matthews said...

I was just thinking about this cartoon - and trying to tell my wife about it - a few days ago! Thanks for posting these excerpts. Makes me wish someone would collect these Terrytoons Mighty Mouse cartoons in a DVD set.

Ant said...

You know John, I really hope you are collating all your wisdom and personal techniques so you can release an awesome cartoon book in the future. I'll buy it!

Jeremiah said...

Wow! Those are great!

These posts on Terrytoons and early Hannah Barbara have been very informative.

Thank you.

Art F. said...

i saw some Terrytoons this weekend that had some awesome Carlo Vinci dancing animation in them. the broken wrist is the key to spotting it. i never noticed it before, but now i can't help but see it. i remember watching Krakatoa Katie as a kid and not being able to look away from Katie's dancing. even now, she's a pretty hot lookin' mouse.

Kevin Langley said...

One of the only things I found intersting in Richard Williams' book was the section on breaking joints in movement but it's so horribly illustrated, it's much more fun and interesting to study scenes like this one from Vinci.

Dr. Strange-Q said...

If she shook that sarong in my face, I'd jump to action, just like Mighty Mouse!

NARTHAX said...

So if Carlo Vinci animated the Terrytoon dancing girl mice, what did Connie Rasinski animate? We know Rasinski was a former circus clown and worked animating millions of Terrytoon scenes. Rasinski was supposed to be among Terrytoons' best artists, according to the artists themselves. Do you know of any scenes Connie did for certain? What defined his style?

Patrick said...

Yeah...That's some HOT mouse action!!!
Thanks for the clips!!!
Your blog is so cool! and useful!! not the usual fluff.

C. A. M. Thompson said...

There definitely needs to be a Terrytoons DVD. Great clips.

mike f. said...

I love Carlo Vinci!
He's one of the best wops.

Franky said...

Hey John,
I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by "broken wrist/collapsing joints". You previously wrote He used really unique gestures and poses-sort of awkward unbalanced poses and the characters' wrists always bent in opposite directions.

I'm not seeing it. Katie there seems to be moving in a very natural way, although her balance is incredible it doesn't strike me as impossible, just fun.

JohnK said...

>>He's one of the best wops.<<

You think he animated in his pointy shoes?

Duck Dodgers said...

Screenshots of this scene are on my blog.
If you want you can link to that post....

Roberto González said...

This is beautiful. I haven't watched Terrytoons since I was a kid, in fact when I was very little. That explains why I don't remember they have this kind of sexy scenes. It might be a girl mouse but man, it's cute.

Yeah, we need this on DVD.

I don't totally get your points about the animation, cause it is difficult to me to watch the cartoon studying it instead of enjoying it, and because I don't quite get this kind of technical explanations in english, but I'm glad you put the clips there, anyway.

Kevin W. Martinez said...

Still Pictures really don't do this kind of animation justice. Seeing the DailyMotion ecerpts however, made me realize how great Vinci's animation really is

Donald S. said...

I wish I could watch this cartoon crisp on DVD

I don't really care said...

A hundred-plus channels and none of them are showing any Terrytoons stuff anymore. I can't figure it out. Who owns it now and why aren't they putting it out?

That mouse gave me my very first pre-school boner. As I grew up, I moved on to Laura Petrie, Jeannie, Bewitched lady, and Lt. Uhura, but you never forget your first crush.

lastangelman said...

Holy crap, who was the stripper used as a model for Krakatoa Katie? Between Rod Scribner's inside anatomical jokes in Falling Hare and The Great Piggy Bank Robbery and the enticing exciting dancing routines executed by Carlo Vinci's dancing mice ( not to mention Red Hot Riding Hood from MGM!), I'm beginning to wonder what kind of lives these early animators led - I need to bring my sketch pad to the strip clubs here in Dallas and get some ideas !!

Hammerson said...

This is a beautiful scene, possibly my favorite piece of Carlo Vinci animation in Terrytoons. He did lot of fantastic dance scenes, especially in mid-'40s Mighty Mouse cartoons. It's quite a grand achievement for an animator to be equally good and innovative in both limited and full animation style.
John, do you know when did exactly Carlo Vinci started to work on Terrytoons? Previously I thought he joined the studio in the late '30s and wasn't aware that he was there even earlier. I would love to see the examples of his earliest animation, because I'm currently writing about the early '30s Terrytoons at Duck Dodgers blog. Take a look if you wish.

Jorge Garrido said...

Hey h-wy was ?my other comment [CENSORED!!!]?

JohnK said...

Hi Jorge

I didn't see it. Send it again. Sorry!

Thad K said...

I like Carlo Vinci's animation a lot. It has great stylized movement like the animation by Art Davis for Tashlin and Mike Lah for Avery.

- Thad

Jorge Garrido said...

It was links to high quality screenshots of Carlo Vinci's @ Terrytoons from Duck Dodger's site.

The Vinci Code:

http://classiccartoons.blogspot.com/2006/07/vinci-code-crackpot-king.html

http://classiccartoons.blogspot.com/2006/06/vinci-code-mighty-mouse-in-krakatoa.html

http://classiccartoons.blogspot.com/2006/07/vinci-code-mighty-mouse-in-gypsy-life.html