Thursday, September 18, 2008

Wicks Made a Clean Bastard

David inked some stuff just for fun, so I thought I would share the love.



And here's the culprit who brought bland animation into the mainstream more than anyone else. I can't believe there's a book bragging about ruining cartoons.

Filmation predated Dreamworks and Dic and set the standard for extreme hesitancy to make a creative statement that many religiously follow now. Filmation brought fear of fun to animation.

53 comments:

trevor said...

I actually found a cool looking Filmation Mighty Mouse video.

The movement is, as you would imagine, minimal, but the poses are, for Filmation, pretty good.

Check it out.

- trevor.

PS: We need to write a book about you, John.

trevor said...

PS: Hey Wicks, good work! I should be online as of tomorrow. I'll post my head lessons this weekend.

Sweartagod!

Mr. Semaj said...

-I'm already predicting that the episodes with Donald Bastard will be the funniest.

-Why are they publishing a book about a studio no one cares about? :-/

Taco Wiz said...

Trevor, a book about John is already in the works. Which I'll buy as soon as it comes out.

Anyway, when is the first episode of the new George Liquor webshow being released? I heard a rumor that it'll be released sometime on October, which I hope is true, because I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER!

kevin said...

Nice work Wicks. I was messin' around with inking/coloring that duck a few weeks ago. I forgot about it until now - check it

EalaDubh said...

That's never a real Filmation book, there's no giant close-up profile hogging the cover.

RadioMike said...

The animation may not be great, but did I see Josie and the Pussycats back there? The soundtrack for that was exceptional and I have CD somewhere with all of it.

PCUnfunny said...

Making a book about Filmation is just as pointless as selling your family vacation slides to people you don't even know.

Powli said...

Are you ever going to produce those pencil toppers? I would kill for that George Liquor and Uncle Eddie.

SoleilSmile said...

Jinkies, John. I wonder if you would you even berate of Doug Wilde of Johnny Quest. That was a gorgeous cartoon.

Oliver_A said...

Filmation - one of the worst studios ever in existance. The studio being "able" to produce Tom & Jerry episodes making Gene Deitch's shorts look like masterpieces. And what they did to other classic characters like Droopy...

@John: It would be cool if you would share some depressing stories with us, since you brought that topic up.

Nikita said...

we're makin tha book cause we've lowered our standands as human beings.. I really wish they would take more time and think these things through

Caleb Bowen said...

I like the pencil topper inks, Wicks.

I also like Lou Scheimer's pose on the cover: like Satan unleashing his demons unto the world.

Nikita said...

p.s.John you should teach a class...

and don't sugarcoat it for the students to feel 'c.o.m.f.o.r.t.a.b.l.e'

Surly Bird said...

I am still trying to remove the part of my brain that was traumatized in my youth by Filmation dreck. I could tell, even as a kid, the Filmation toons were cut-rate mung.

Thanks for this wonderful blog of awesomeness, John. I find a continual source of inspiration.

Pat Lewis said...

That book looks like a vanity project if ever I saw one. They couldn't even find an in-focus photograph of that guy to use on the cover?

I just watched the He-Hog pitch/pilot over on Jim Smith's blog. The fact that that show never got picked up just highlights the injustice in the world.

Zoran Taylor said...

Hey Trevor, someone on youTube claims that the Filmation thing you posted was a Fitzgerald/Butterworth collab. I wouldn't be surprised! What I wanna know is how'd they even get away with it???

Oliver_A said...

Not to mention Filmation's really bad adaptations of Life action shows:

What do you prefer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iR9ADM8r2A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BB5E6Ye6KQ&feature=related

Totally drives the point of animation ad absurdum.

mike f. said...

Lou Scheimer was to animation what John Dillinger was to banking and commerce. He should be in prison instead of on a book tour. What's next, a medal of honor for Andy Heyward?

Deng said...

At least Filmation kept their all Animation staff in North America, unlike DIC who sent everything overseas, even storyboards sometimes.

But I still don't see your connection between Filmation and Dreamworks Animation...???

Deng said...

At least Filmation kept their all Animation staff in North America, unlike DIC who sent everything overseas, even storyboards sometimes.

But I don't see your connection between Filmation and Dreamworks animation...???

Sven Hoek said...

Lou's co-conspirator has an appropriate name,

Andy Mangels
and he mangles animation
and he mangles fun

HemlockMan said...

If you had a time machine, you could go back and stop Scheimer's parents from ever meeting.

Whit said...

That picture of Lou Scheimer looks like Lloyd Thaxton at a cartoon slumber party.

Skid said...

That bastard....lets put a flaming paper bag filled with dog poop on his doorstep.

Cartoon Crank said...

The Filmation-Dreamworks connection is easy. Dreamworks is just a full-blown, CGI expansion of that place. Massively talented people working on artless, lifeless, expressionless shit. Same-old, same-old.

SoleilSmile said...

I'm lovin' the Tank Girl icon Skid.

Dismembered Ninjas! HA!

Anyhoo, I guess the Filmation book is for those of us who liked He-Man and She-Ra. I was an Archie and Brady Kids fan myself.
Then again... I haven't seen those shows since I was 7. Who knows if they aged well?

PCUnfunny said...

"At least Filmation kept their all Animation staff in North America"

Yes I loved how they bragged about that. That's like saying "Look ! I can **** up animation at home ! I don't need any foreigners to do it for me !"

JohnK said...

They didn't have an "animation staff".

They had a "xerox the model sheets staff". Then they would write timing charts on the copies and hand them to the assistants who would shift and trace the model sheets.

And in actuality, I remember they did some some stuff overseas...Bravestarr or Lone Ranger or some godawful thing that looked exactly like every other show they did.

Raff said...

For the sake of trivia, is there an "Every Crappy 80s Cartoon John K Ever Worked On" list anywhere?

thurberseyedoc said...

John
Just saw a youtube clip of Mel Blanc on Letterman, from the early eighties- he's hyping "1001 Rabbit Tales", but makes a few good points about how animation looks so much better with the old school approach, so I forgive the schilling of those theatrically released folderol, in deference.
Also on youtube I saw "The Ducktators" and "The Hep Cat"- the latter a rarely seen Clampett classic from 1942.
Your opinions on animation techniques are fascinating- have you posted anything about the rotoscoping process? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

Nikita said...

John i found out something interesting. do you have photoshop?
cause you can make animations on layers annd chage the diff parts. but I wanna know, what techniques do you use to start off?

Enef said...

Some people says "80's crappy cartoons"... maybe, you're not wrong... But it's all my childhood!
*sighs* It reminds me a lot of stuff!
Anyway, French TV all love to show crappy cartoons you know!

Larry Levine said...

My favorite Filmation childhood memory was when the Brady Kids would play their 'music', it was retraced animation of The Archies. Even the Brady Kids dog Moptop (what happened to Tiger) was doing all of Hot Dog's moves to a tee.

Too bad it took another two decades until The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse rescued Saturday morning animation.

Jorge Garrido said...

Hey, trevor, that wild filmation take was boarded by Eddie and animated by Kent Butterwoth.

I find it funny that one of the youtube commentators said it was "ahead of its time."

Rotgut said...

"I can't believe there's a book bragging about ruining cartoons."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAW

A truer statement was never heard.

Rotgut said...

"Lou Scheimer was to animation what John Dillinger was to banking and commerce. He should be in prison instead of on a book tour."

Ya know, I was thinking of posting my thoughts but I keep reading these brilliant comments and I cannot stop laughing!!

omg so funny

trevor said...

So.... who's doing the book on John? Taco? Anyone?

Also, since I seem to be getting my requests answered, is anyone doing a book on Clampett? Because one is long overdue.

- trevor.

Rodrigo said...

Yep, Bee Movie sucked.

EalaDubh said...

Who else remembers the Animaniacs short 'Back In Style', where they ROYALLY took the living piss out of Filmation, Hanna-Barbera and the other 70s TV animation studios? Funniest one they ever did.

mike f. said...

[Who else remembers the Animaniacs short 'Back In Style'... Funniest one they ever did.]

That's like comparing a horse turd to a mule turd.

Wicks for Candlesticks said...

It's always surreal to see something I inked on here. I was pretty happy until I saw The Filmation book. Ugh!

Trevor, the book is being released by PictureBox (scroll down).


Thanks, John. Gotta keep practicing, though.

-David O.

Whit said...

Filmation farmed out its 1980 "Zorro" series to Japan. TMS did the animation, at a much lower cel count than they would do for other studios later that decade.

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EalaDubh said...

I dunno, is it possible for horse and mule turds to be insufferably smug? Because I agree, Animaniacs was WAY too self-knowingly clever-clever for pretty much all of its run; but the in-jokey animation jibes in that particular short were absolutely spot-on. But it's also very easy to understand from the latest two posts on 'wonkiness' why that kind of self-referential cartoon scripting leaves John and others here absolutely cold.

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Pokey said...

[alias Steve Carras under my usual account:]
Also, yes, the Filmation book does exist [unfortunately for us] and
IS about RUINING toons. Maybe at a "Borders Book" or whatever or later at the library I might if I see it read it just to see what boasts are made. I'd love to see:
---A DiC book
---A Marvel/SunbowClaster/Hasbro book.

Just to see what inane boasts would be made.

And yes, John K'.'s right, Filmation DID send stuff overseas. They just kept mum about it. Can't further ruin a repuation, y'know.

A book about John K is long overdue...Again----I really hated
the basic removal of Reggie and Veronica's nasty side of the Archies the most [and I'm just saying this as an Archie fan of the classci comic books.]

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Pokey said...

Rotgut beat me to it [in his quoe of one of your captions, JohnK]:
"A Filmation book?: A book bragging about the art of RUINING cartoons" [paraphrased by me, btw].


Another important thing, re Archie:
I hated how the cartoons, and to a lesser extent, the comics made rivals Betty and Veronica friends, a la what happened to Daffy and Bugs [friends, then enemies, at least one-sided on the duck's part], and likewise Daffy vs Speeddy. Betty being friends with Veronica in the cartoons, particularly, for my money, was one of the worst things to happen Archie, along with the removal of the bullying or villianous Reggie aspects. Just my two cents. And yes, the Archie/Brady Kids animation was the same! So was Fat Albert!

Pokey said...

By the way, "I can't believe there's a book bragging about ruining cartoons" might be even BETTER stated as:
"I can't believe there's ACTUALLY a book BRAGGING about RUINING CARTOONS!"

[And Filmation gave IMO a lot of the worst voice work to the guy who did my voice and Gumby, aka the late Dallas McKennon! I'd fopr hiom to be remembered as just a voice for a Filmation charatcer...btw one of the Marvel Ren and Stimpy comics had in Information booth at a shopping mall with the famous Filmation font used for the word Information LOL!

Pokey said...

"..But did I see Josie and the Pussycats back there?"

I don't think so. Josie was Hanna-Barbera but the show was an Archie comics adapation, and maybe JatP WAS intended to be Filmation. but I don't see the characters there. Warner had already closed their studio, and it would have been weird if they had planned that [they HAD planned made for TV cartoons with an Al Capp character and probaly a Keystone Kop Sat AM or movie cartoon. I'm curious to see what the late 60s WB studio would have done with characters like Josie that HB turned out having made..:)]

Pokey said...

Allow me to make one more comment..or..shall we say, a link to a Filmation cartoon with some of the most asinine defences of it..:)

Here it is

LOL at the folks trying to, uh rationalise Filmation as a CLASSIC!

Pokey said...

Whoops! Looks like the link didn't go through..

Anyway, just as well [and the clip would probsaly be removed, but it was a Hardy Boys one.] Saved millions of people from another stressful 1960s Saturday morning cartoon trauma.

Anyway, our taste may be subjective, BUT, there's no excuse for what Filmation was about [and IO love that Marvel Ren and Stimpy comics parody of the Filmation logo as a shopping mall Information booth in one of those 1990s comic.s]