Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Do These belong in the 2% of Good Hip Hop?

More of the 2% from commenters.




And here is RAGE AGAINST THE EQUIPMENT rapping about how rebellious they are and telling you why you should love them.




I'm taking their words for it but am wondering who else agrees.

Here's my pick:



Now that was talking too, not singing either, but it was clear, stylish and rhythmic. And the band could actually play.

For the few of you who still haven't heard what singing really is, I'm gonna put up a post in a bit.

55 comments:

Michael J. Patrick said...

What about MC Frontalot?

Toole said...

You can't tell me that Lil Nutzack remixed with Cox is not great art.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiXOhVwHAjI

Oliver_A said...

The difference is that your choice immediately put a smile on my face.

Harveyjames said...

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M. R Darbyshire said...

Am I a capitalist pig if I ignore the first two whatever-they-are's and just listen to Tex Williams?

Matlock said...

The best rap I've ever heard is by Flight Of The Conchords, which is ironic because they're making fun of rap.

Valhallah32 said...

damn i enjoyed that ditty, actually made me ponder taking up smoking.

Jack said...

I don't know if you got my comment in your last post, but I'd really like to hear your opinion on this

JohnK said...

Eddie Fitzgerald did a rap video? I didn't know he had Turret's syndrome.

Oliver_A said...

I don't know if you got my comment in your last post, but I'd really like to hear your opinion on this

Well John, I guess you are already inspiring rap artists around the world. Makes you feel better, huh? ;)

perspex said...

snnnnnnnnoooooooooorrrrre
hmmph
what?
oh im sorry, this thread is boring me to tears. can we move on? thanks!

Chickens and Beandip said...

Renegades of funk is a cover song.

Frank Macchia said...

HAHAHA

shit...i need a cigarette

good choice john haha

Trevor Thompson said...

MEMO2ME: Next time John K. mentions his distaste for rap, keep opinions to myself.

Now if I could only get construction down...

- trevor.

Ardy said...

Here's my 2%.

Kerssido said...

I was born in the 80's, and it seems like I ended up in the angriest generation ever! I never liked rap, too noisy and incomprehensible.

That being said, this is my pick for a rap video I actually like. I blame my girlyness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsbL6CahtvE&feature=channel_page

Trevor Thompson said...

PS: Best rap and flow goes to: Tex Williams.

- trevor.

Christine Gerardi said...

I want to see Cab Calloway rap!

Ryan G. said...

>> And here is RAGE AGAINST THE EQUIPMENT rapping about how rebellious they are and telling you why you should love them.<<

In defense of Rage Against the Machine, they actually play their own instruments and the guitarist, Tom Morello is quite innovative..

Cartoon Critique! said...

Hey everyone! Can we tear ourselves away from this heated debate for two seconds and critique poor Tony's construction studies he has up? He's only gotten like two! That would really improve our crumbling society.

Cartoon Critique! said...

oh yeah, the address is

www.cartooncritique.blogspot.com

b. Touch said...

I really think this blog should stick to cartooning. No offense, but there's no productive point to these culturally ignorant anti-hip-hop rants.

David Mackenzie said...

I quite like Rage myself, but your own example is the only one I could be bothered listing through to the end of.

Nsixqatsi said...

I randomly found a hip hop song i sort of like recently.

Red Ants - Versus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y55TEfat9BM&fmt=18


and then i found this and laughed:
Red Ants - Dirty Space Alchemy (Bakshi Wizards video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EdLIJhG0TE&fmt=18




But normally I tend to like music of this sort of persuasion
Autechre - Gantz Graf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9lpy6UROF4&fmt=18

or you know, something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty4GhwY-Mmw&fmt=18

or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm3mMs33Npg&fmt=18


note: adding &fmt=18 to youtube urls makes the sound stereo and improves the video/sound quality of any/all youtube videos.

Jorge Garrido said...

Some people were going around saying they're gonna stop reading the blog now because John doesn't like rap. That's retarded. Who cares about rap? Do you try to convince your barber and your butcher to like your music? It's not worth throwing away the greatest animation resource on the internet for want of a style of music.

If it's such a controversial topic that all other conversation is brought to a stand still because of it, then we should all stop talking about it. We're never gonna agree, it's a generational thing. As long as we all agree to agree that 1940s music is the best, I don't see a problem.

Is that fair?

Lluis Fuzzhound said...

I used to listen to the Ice-T record Iceburg in the late 80's early 90's, when I was a youngster... that was some mean motherf****n' rappin'!!hehehe!! what you gotta hear John is Australian rap!!!in an Australian accent!! ahahah it's pretty funny!!! make me cringe! hehehe!! I'll try to find some on You Tube!
That country song you found has got one steady beat! love it!

Bill J. Barry said...

I know nothing about rap and could care less about it.

Today's cartoons and rap do have one thing in common and that is both contain at least 98% crap.

Lluis Fuzzhound said...

Hello John! Here is some real Rhymes!!! ahaha
Aussie hip hop
hehehe!!!

enjoy!

jmullan said...

Interestingly, Smoke, Smoke, Smoke (That Cigarette) was "written in large part by Merle Travis." Whitburn, The Billboard Book of Top 40 Country Hits, p. 89. (as quoted in wikipedia). There is a lot of crappy music from the 40s, too, but it is harder to remember because it was eighty years ago. Do you think that parents and grandparents from that generation disavowed his sing-talking then because it wasn't what they were used to?

Also, Tex's flow is weak.

J.R. Spumkin said...

I second Trevor.

Kali Fontecchio said...

I remember that cigarette song! I used to listen to it with my friend Sean, I thought it was so hilarious to hear an early form of rap that didn't make my ears bleed!

J.R. Spumkin said...

>>Some people were going around saying they're gonna stop reading the blog now because John doesn't like rap. That's retarded. Who cares about rap? Do you try to convince your barber and your butcher to like your music? It's not worth throwing away the greatest animation resource on the internet for want of a style of music.

If it's such a controversial topic that all other conversation is brought to a stand still because of it, then we should all stop talking about it. We're never gonna agree, it's a generational thing. As long as we all agree to agree that 1940s music is the best, I don't see a problem.

Is that fair?<<

I agree with Jorge. This is a cartoon blog (mostly), for god sakes, and John's entitled to his opinion.

Still, that hasn't stopped me from leaving my barber for not enjoying the discography of Slipknot when I offered it to him. The bastard.

M. R Darbyshire said...

Commander Cody - Hot Rod Lincoln

Kali Fontecchio said...

PS

my favorite rapper is Robert Zimmerman!

I had this song memorized upside down and backwards since the 4th grade, and whenever I got an in argument in school about rap, I'd start reciting it and get ostracized, haha. Memories, like the corners of my mind...or something....

SibbSabb said...

Hip Hop btw is defined as a cultural expression/movement opposed to simply rap music. Hip Hop is music, DJing, breakdancing, street art, graffiti, all that stuff.

*pushes glasses up on nose*

And here is my example for that '2% of good Rap music'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDzr4b6EwFg&feature=related

(2 parts)

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9C-6TPaZHc

Oliver_A said...

Since everyone is contributing a bit, I'd also offer some oldskool German (well, Austrian) hiphop:

Falco: Der Komissar

Brendan said...

I wonder how John feels about Tom Waits or Frank Zappa. I don't know much about his musical taste.. Not that this has anything to do with Hip-hop.

Hayden Currie said...

Hey John, besides being inspired by the richness of past popular culture shown in your posts, and learning fundamental cartooning skills for free, I enjoy your strong (mostly well-formed) opinions that spark debate. Watching Alistair Cooke’s Personal History of America recently I realized the blandification of our popular culture corresponds with the domestication of our society. Hardly original (Ken Kesey says it better in One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest) and I lack empirical evidence, but there may be something to it. Blandification follows domestication (with maybe a lag of a generation or two as the knowledge, ruggedness and pioneering spirit of the last generation is watered down), and the conveniences we surround ourselves with can either help us achieve more (with the right knowledge and discipline) or help us to become complacent, let others do our thinking, and encourage mediocrity. Thanks for sharing, and it’s good to see so many other people with the intellectual curiosity and the drive to “carry the fire”.

JohnK said...

John loves Frank Zappa. Especially his Mothers stuff.

I had him sign my Hot Rats and Uncle Meat albums that I had played a thousand times each. I have all his albums up until the mid 70s I guess, when he got all funky.

Kali Fontecchio said...

"John loves Frank Zappa. Especially his Mothers stuff."

Whoa, are you talking about yourself in third person, or are we royal now? Ha,ha.

My awesome Flintstone rap and Dylan links were lost in the madness! I'm so sad.

JOhn, you should totally record yourself reciting that crazy ass Zappa song that I can never remember what it's about, but it's so funny when you say it by heart.

Nsixqatsi said...

Hot Rats!!

Hayden Currie said...

Hey everybody, look at me. I have musical tastes of my own. Are you prouuuuuuud of Hayden?!! Hug me, love me, shower me with kisses! I command you to hear my 2cents of Hip Hop that has potential John K crossover appeal: Busdriver and Saul Williams have got melody and lyrics worth listening to in spades: “artistic merit is questionable, we’ll fall on our faaaaace.”
And if that still doesn't work John K may require a frontal lobotomy and a "love Hip Hop" chip inserted into his cerebral cortex to remake him in our own image. That oughta do it.

mike f. said...

My awesome Flintstone rap and Dylan links were lost in the madness! I'm so sad

Don't be, Kal. I'd forgotten what made Dylan famous - fun songs like that and Rainy Day Women #12 & 35.

It absolutely is rap, and it completely puts to shame modern garbage. It's also fun and happy and infectious.

it's not about hate, rape, violence or pimping bitches, and it doesn't glorify idiotic and dysfunctional prison culture to privileged wiggers and phony juvenile delinquent wannabes.

M. Smith said...

>>In defense of Rage Against the Machine, they actually play their own instruments and the guitarist, Tom Morello is quite innovative..

The Roots also play their own instruments (though maybe not all of the time) if that counts for anything. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFb9UqELX8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg1fGIumQRg

Kali Fontecchio said...

Thanks Mike!

You're such a cute curmudgeon, haha.

Now, let's build a time machine.

Ryan G. said...

"I had him sign my Hot Rats and Uncle Meat albums that I had played a thousand times each. I have all his albums up until the mid 70s I guess, when he got all funky."

Frank Zappa was the Pope that clung tenaciously to Powder Toast Man's buttocks!

Love Joe's Garage myself..

crystalrbogle said...

WHHOOOOHOOO!!!
*leaping merrily around the room like a flea with St. Vitus Dance*
I think it's the first I'm hearing the "Smoke, smoke Smoke a cigarette" song... (although it sounds a little familiar...was it ever used in a cartoon?)
AAAHH! I LOVE IT!!! I'm ADDICTED to it!
Thank you!!!
Oh my word, I have to go hunt it down in a store somewhere now...
(*Hugs JohnK*)
That was awesome.

Roxanne said...

Minor point:

Hip-hop and rap are two distinct genres, though there is lot of cross-over, just as there is between jazz, blues, r&b, and rock.

Lauryn Hill raps and sings, and does both very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGUsF-Whb1g

I've been looking for that cigarette song! It's in the opening credits to "Thank You For Smoking": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHKBIKv0HjA

Niki said...

Mr. John there's one reason that I can't consider your video as gansta rap. It doesn't sound like he wants to kill anybody.

That's happy rap. I guess, he invented a new genre!

C. A. M. Thompson said...

Hi John. This definitely belongs in the 2%.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruef7aYCEbc

Kyle Downes said...

I've always been a fan of the less aggressive sounding hip-hop.

Definitely one of the most listenable hip-hop groups is JURASSIC 5.

try:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcq9z_jurassic-5-concrete-schoolyard

or:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=xaz2qkDZII4

I think possibly what raises them above the rest is DJ Cut Chemist and one of the vocalists "Charlie 2na" (the one with the really deep voice)

Brad said...

Hey, this stuff is all solid gold in my book, rap goes a hell of a lot wider than what's on the radio today.

That 1 Guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHlDfejCHkc

bisso na bisso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft-7IMh4xK4

Dan Le Sac vs Scroobius Pip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESvYRR1Fyug

Hey Ladies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy5iQubfV5s

cemenTIMental said...

"Hated on by most these animators with no cheese, no deals and no gs
No wheels and no keys, no boats, no snowmobiles and no skis"

Jorge Garrido said...

Other good "rap" is Chuck Berry's "No More Monkey Business," which influenced Bob Dylan, and Ray Charles's "Greenback Dollar Bill"

Pete Emslie said...

I'm afraid I don't even understand the above comment by cemenTIMental. See what happens when you listen to too much rap? It turns your brain to mush and you talk in gibberish...