Tuesday, March 03, 2009

2 Purists









Both these guys are pure cartoonists and they both worked in a variety of styles, some more detailed, some simpler.

They are both wacky and spontaneous. They want their cartoons to be fun and ridiculous. I would say Gross has a much stronger design sense, whereas Tyer is more anarchic. You can really see Gross' design at work not just within each panel, but on the whole page layout.


Tyer actually can sort of almost control his work when he really wants to. I have tons of great scenes he did for Terrytoons from the late 40s, but they're on tape, so I can't make clips to share - unless someone out there knows an easy way for me to do it.


This particular Tyer comic really reminds me of Milton Knight - the last of the New York style animators.

13 comments:

Thomas said...

I just checked out Milt Gross' Count Screwball and JR MGM cartoons on Cartoons Model Sheets blog. I've never seen them before nor was I aware of Milt Gross before checking in with this blog.

JR the dog is an amazing creation. The cartoon in general gives real meaning to the word animation.

Alex said...

Hey John,

I've been following your blog for a while, found great information (in older posts too) and I'm delighted that you post daily. I also got started with the 10-lesson mega-course. I'm not very far yet, and I don't think I'm going to post my progress on a blog either, but it's been of great help so far.

One thing I noticed is that there's very little information (on the web and books in general) about drawing cartoon props. Every course or article or whatever concentrates on the characters. We all know they are the most important, but I guess props could also make the difference in a scene. Maybe you could give us some tips (or maybe even a few lessons)? I think it would be appreciated by the readers. Maybe ask them too?

Don't know if this is the best way to contact you, but I thought that since you moderate the comments, I could give it a shot here. You don't have to approve my comment since it has nothing to do with the Purists post.

Alex

ArtF said...

ha! that's funny, i thought it was Milton Knight just by looking at the drawings before reading the post.

aalong64 said...

I love Milton Knight. In fact, just last week I bought a painting from him. I really love his style, but I can't find much of his work in stores.

Anybody know some other cartoonists with similar styles, whose work is more readily available?

Owen said...

Haha, this is getup that George was wearing on the layouts! Hilarious!

ComiCrazys said...

"This particular Tyer comic really reminds me of Milton Knight - the last of the New York style animators."

Hey, I'm trying. =)

Trevor Thompson said...

Why don't I like the color in that last page?

- trevor.

smirkstudios said...

Hey Mr. J! I just finished a VERY amateur paid animation in which I experimented with several new things that I usually wouldn't draw. Mostly I mean females, because I do not have much practice drawing them.

What I REALLY need to ask is will you give me some pointers to kinda make my animation a bit more full? It seems like I know the actions I want, but cannot make them move the way I want. If you could look at the girl I animated in the begining, you'll clearly not that it's missing SOMETHING to make the actions fuller. My trouble is WHAT IS IT?! LOL I've had this problem with pretty well all of my work, so please help!

Oh, and about the post just now, I like these posts you do about other published work to show what accomplished layout designs can do, and that you'll find them in uniqe places (such as artists not everyone knows about or wouldn't think follows that criteria).

zdog042 said...

Not a comment on the animation, but on turning VHS tapes into clips/files. I use Pinnacle's Dazzle system. You plug it into your computer and a VHS player and it can capture the video and sound to turn it directly into a video file or burn it to a DVD.

Love the blog, by the way. I've found myself noticing things that I never did before, seeing that the animation I once thought was fluid and solid actually has a lot of problems. It's been like going through puberty, but with how I view animation!

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David Gale said...

The panel where the rug gets pulled out from underneath Pop is amazing!

shane said...

There is also this Sony Everything to DVD converter I gave to my parents for Xmas.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/505213-REG/Sony_VRDMC5_DVDirect_MC5_Multi_Function_DVD.html

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Hamronial said...

These are all so energetic and full of life!

"Gross has a much stronger design sense, whereas Tyer is more anarchic"

...it's funny though, (at least in this example--and in my opinion) Tyer's looks more super-tightly designed and constructed than the Gross example, which actually seem to have a higher degree of spontinaity.

in the Tyer panels I'm seeing here really strong use of negative space and genuinely wacky poses.

Does this make sense or am I way off?