Sunday, April 12, 2009

Carbunkle 2 - Ren's Romantic Dream

<span class=Ren and Stimpy" height="265" width="400"><span class=Ren and Stimpy" height="265" width="400">


Somewhere in between the storyboard poses and the animation we do layout poses as I showed in the Dave Feiss post. There are usually more layout poses than storyboard poses, because I get in there and fiddle with them.


In this case, Kelly Armstrong worked from the basic layout poses but added a lot of her own - without straying from the context of the scene at all. All her poses only strengthened the scene and made it more individual and more real.Here's the basic layout pose above which only tells you that Ren is having a romantic dream and that he thinks Stimpy is a beautiful human woman.

Kelly, again listened really closely to the soundtrack and drew expressions to match every inflection in my voice. She also exaggerated far beyond what anyone was used to seeing at the time. Even me.

These are pretty close to the layouts.
Kelly added the lips and all the specific mouths.



Holy Cow! Any other studio would fire you for drawings like this!

Back to layouts.



video

Unfortunately this beautiful scene got cut when the cartoon first aired. It was deemed too "homosexual". Even though I think there were gay people working on both sides of the production.

It actually isn't remotely homosexual. If anything it's "homophobic". Once Ren wakes up and realizes he's kissing Stimpy and not a girl, he freaks out. It's also species-o-phobic, when you think about it.

If you wanna still frame through -it, you'll see a lot of amazingly crazy Kelly drawings.
I want to point out again that they aren't randomly crazy; not merely for their own sake. They all drive the point of the scene home, right down to its minutest details. This is entirely different than say a Jim Tyer, who can sometimes just be crazy for crazy sake, without regard to character or to what the scene is about. That's still more entertaining than blandness, but it's much harder to be creative and stay within context.

http://www.cartoonthrills.org/blog/spumco/RenStimpy/1BHB/KellyCucaracha.mov

26 comments:

litlgrey said...

Aww, Ren's recoil in waking horror is missing from this clip, and that's the payoff!

Ted said...

Did this post actually get put up on Friday or late Thursday? I didn't see it show up in the RSS feed until Friday morning, tho it has a Wednesday date and shows up in order as if it were put up before two posts I have read.

Vincent Waller said...

It wasn't here yesterday, so I'm thinking it's Easter Sunday joy John is sharing.

JohnK said...

Sorry for the confusion folks,
I made a whole pile of clips all at once.


I usually like to spread a topic out (like the making of Big House Blues), but it takes so much time to make the clips that I haven't had time to come up with other subjects and collect the art to illustrate them with.

Help me out Ted!

Litlgrey: that's the next post. It was animated by Bob, so I split the scenes apart for discussion.

drawingtherightway said...

What is the main purpose behind layouts? Is it to make sure the scene reads clearly? Are they usually key frames?

JohnK said...

The main purpose is to stage the scene. To place the characters within the background at the size you want them to appear on the screen. I have posts about it. Click the "layout" tag at the bottom of the post.

I added a purpose (for TV) of doing extra poses to give me more control of the acting and final look of the scenes, knowing that the animation would be done somewhere else, not within my direct observation.

It's a cross breed of the classic animation system and the sad realities of TV production.

M. R Darbyshire said...

Ha ha! I love the full-lipped Ren expressions

Edward G Robinson?

Roberto González said...

It's a great scene and it shouldn't have been cut.

I know Ren is dreaming about a girl, but I think it is a little homosexual on Stimpy's side. He seems quite pleased with the situation, am I wrong?

I love the frame with Ren kissing Stimpy while opening one of his eyes. He's right on the middle of two very different moods and that's difficult to show.

The Butcher said...

This is still my favorite Ren and Stimpy because when you freeze frame it, you see the craziest drawings. It's Ren and Stimpy in it's rawest form. I guess I'm sort of a purest that way. There's never been an episode that looked like this one.

Stimpy is like a loose bag of sand in this scene. The way his body flops is just brilliant.

Brandon Waltman said...

my god, the drawings where ren has lips are incredible. this is one of the very few examples where i'm blown away by every frame

Shawn said...

I'm really glad you're covering this cartoon! I love everything about Big House Blues, and I've been hoping you would put up some posts about it ever since you first started your blog. I'm really enjoying them!

Rick Roberts said...

I wouldn't even say homophobic. A straight guy, or dog, wouldn't like the fact that he kissed another dude.

Ted said...

I'm limited to what I have, more or less. And I don't have anything applicable to this particular post. Sorry.

If you're asking for more BHB stuff in general tho, if you go to
http://tag.rubberslug.com/gallery/inv_info.asp?ItemID=129983
I collected some related images to the BHB pigeon drawing there (look under sketch 1, sketch 2 for the screencap), if you want to compare some identical steps for a specific image in BHB. Most of the drawings under "sketch 1" came from the Animation Archive auctions from (a year and a half?) ago. I would assume Steve has all of the images from those auctions, tho I can't recall if they were all from BHB or not.
There's also a series of drawings of Ren leaving the pound at
http://tag.rubberslug.com/gallery/master_query.asp?SeriesID=14467&Page=3
And there's a few cels from BHB, but they don't provide much information that screencaps don't (tho the praying Ren looks mighty smooth).

akira said...

yeah that's awesome, thanks so much for going into depth on this cartoon. the timing is great in that scene too! stimpy's acting is hilarious too!

Rudy Tenebre said...

Please re-post the Spumco book preview- I wanna see that cancelled production drawing-what's it: Gary Guignol and Suzy Stalactite, that thang is s-weeet! I shoulda swiped it earlier today.

Raff said...

I noticed that the Carbunkle cartoons had particular mouth action going on, especially on Ren!

Like "I've had this ice cream bar since I was a child!!" and Ren's lips go all sharp at the ends, shaped almost like a paper bag, plus his lower jaw goes all over the place.

I guess it's Kelly's work, right?

MLP said...

I know this post was about the animating process, but I just wanted to say I love the musical effect that plays when Ren realizes what he'd been doing.

DonB said...

>> Edward G Robinson?

I believe it's a caricature of Maurice Chevalier.

Chris Wyatt said...

It's homophobic that someone considered this too homosexual.

Nico said...

this scene has probably the cutest drawings of Ren ever!

HemlockMan said...

It's not gay, but it certainly is silly! Too bad they kicked it out. Homophobia reigns supreme.

Zoran Taylor said...

I could wait for another BHB post, but I gotta ask before I miss my chance....

Something I've been wondering about for awhile, John - On the A-HAA blog, ages and ages ago, Steve put up the storyboards of this, as you know. And as I recall there was some reference to a "3-D Montage". What was the proposed nature of this montage? I'm fascinated by the possibility that this could have been a multimedia cartoon at one point - BHB already has so many diverse visual elements, yet it's so distinctive overall that it doesn't even look quite like other R&S episodes. So when I imagine CGI ( or something to the same effect) making an appearance, my head feels like it's gonna explode!

What was that scene planned to be about and what was it supposed to look like?

John said...

Ren does a great scream take in this bit, can you show us what makes it work John? I can't get my eye-pops to look right...

VORFAS said...

LOVE it

Tony said...

Little things like Stimpy's leg twitching while Ren strokes his nose and his nose bouncing up and down while Ren kisses him are barely noticed when watching the scene in realtime but the overall impression makes an already funny scene even better. It looks similar to what Clampett cartoons did in that you don't notice all the single frame details but still feel the overall emotion of a scene.

SaraHaase said...

This blog is rad! Thank you for having it!

I've been watching Ren and Stimpy lately and was wondering - is there a name/specific term for when there's a sort of "zoom in" shot to a character where it's way detailed and painterly?

And - are there artists who do that specifically? I'd love to make that my job.