Friday, December 31, 2010

Words and Pictures: Nicholas Ray pt 1

"The celluloid strip is not made in the writer's studio"


to be continued...

http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2007/04/real-dialogue-versus-cartoon-writer.html

10 comments:

Steven M. said...

I hate scripts too.

HemlockMan said...

I wrote a script. Your momma was in it.

Trevor G. said...

A good script has got to have a hook, and a heart. The rest is up to the designers.

I don't hate scripts, a great script is a godsend. It doesn't have to be tight in that it tells you all or even any of the details.

Design, audio, camera shots, etc. are all secondary, but a good heart, story, and consistent hook, is all important.

The script is the heart of the story. So I guess I disagree with Nick Ray.

But the rest can be decided by others. Too many cooks spoil the pot doesn't necessarily apply to works of art.

Animation is a pretty good medium for describing this, where you need talented background artists, character animators, voice actors, idea-men, concept artists, designers, etc. And the more talent you bring to the table, as long as its under a strong direction/focus, the better.

I personally find it might be more humble to rely on a team, than on a single person.

But a good script can really send your work into orbit.

I've read a few movie scripts and almost every time, a movie that is absolutely fantastic, you can tell RIGHT from the script what its going to be. It has all the heart right there, ready for you to take advantage of it.

Martin Juneau said...

I have a hate for script since i started to build my comic series years ago.

Lost Shangri-La Horizon said...

Where did you find this essay? I assume that Nicholas Ray wrote it, but I can't find evidence of this.

Forbidden Hippo said...

I guess there is room for all kinds of script interpretation. It's my understanding that Hitchcock had no patience for improvisation from his actors and perhaps that was for the best (or not, maybe his strict style prevented his movies from being better). But like John points out in many of his posts (and I've heard this repeated by other sources), the best work is a collaboration of different talent.

Should actors be forbidden from adding there ideas to a script? Definitely not all of the time but I guess movies where the director doesn't budge on the script have there place.

thomas said...

Probably the secret of writing a script is knowing what to leave out, but to do that you probably have to know who you are working with. Does that ever happen?
I don't really know, but I'd think scripts are written with the idea that it's a complete entity and totally autonomous.
So its handed to the director, or whomever, like its a whole car, to use a metaphor, when its only the steering wheel.

C said...

I used to want to be a scriptwriter for films, but the reality of the world kind of ruined that.

Then I see films that look like they were recorded by stuffing a camera into a popcorn maker and turning the lights out and I get annoyed.

Trevor G. said...

The world is whackier than you think, you should read how Sylvester Stallone made it C.

Don't have to give up. If you have a straight job you can still write in your off time. A script isn't so long as a novel, you can work over it for as long as it takes. Even if that's just an hour or writing per day. :)

HemlockMan said...

There is a certain (Disney) screenwriter who is fabulously wealthy (I won't mention his name because I don't want to get sued). A few years back I saw a short story he was trying to sell--apparently he had the desire then to prove that he is a "real" writer--and that story appeared to have been written by a talentless idiot. Reading that pathetic attempt at literature was a real "Jesus H. Christ!" moment. And yet, there he is, rich beyond my own wildest dreams. With no talent whatsoever. Writing scripts for blockbuster films.