Monday, April 11, 2011

Storyboard To Layout

Here are a handful of storyboard panels from "Wilderness Adventure", one of the firs Ren and Stimpy stories written. The cartoon was rejected 3 times in a row by hippie ladies who hate Republican men.


people ask me sometimes what the difference is between storyboards and layouts. These few storyboard panels turned into 34 layout poses.

Here are the first few.

Layouts are where I tighten up the poses and break down all the acting.
You can't do this with the current system of drawing tight tiny storyboards and sending them overseas to animate without layouts.








Let me know if you'd like me to upload the rest of the layouts.

68 comments:

Trevor Thompson said...

Please post all of them!

BOBKE said...

Incredible! More please. Thank you for sharing.

Bobby said...

Yes, please upload the rest of your layouts.

Perhaps you can discuss what you think will happen to animation in America in the future..

What can we do to restore America as the center of quality animation?

Bobby said...

Yes, please upload the rest of your layouts.

Perhaps you can discuss what you think will happen to animation in America in the future..

What can we do to restore America as the center of quality animation?

Culiau! said...

It gets animated in my head.

John your Blog is amazing.

Being so far in a country where there's no a single decent (or cheap) school of animation. This blog has all the fresh information that an artist could want.

Best wishes from Argentina!

BlakeJ said...

Awesome stuff John - I'm going to have to study these now! :-)

It looks to me like the storyboards were done in the 90s, and the layouts were done circa "Adult Party Cartoon". Stimpy has the 3 Mickey Mouse tails on his head and some look like they've been drawn by Nick Cross.

Your Pal,
BlakeJ

Everett said...

Aww yeah these are awesome. Definitely post more.

Steven M. said...

I'd like to see more of this story in layouts.

Damiano D said...

Yes! Upload the rest! I love looking at these layouts and you explaining the history behind them. Shame this cartoon was never made, love those George Liquor appearances!

Alberto said...

I would RUV to see the rest!

Thiago Levy said...

Whaa...wha...WHAT? Don't be a hippie lady! Post those layouts man! This is the most important asset! The world is lacking layout. Show them!

Amir Avni said...

Oh my god, these are fantastic!

Olivier Vuillemenot said...

Yes, post more about it please ! It's always great to see your and Spumco's work.

Isaac said...

Were the layouts drawn by you? They look like it.

Zoran Taylor said...

john, are you KIDDING?!! Of COURSE we wanna see the rest! Give us a story outline! These are the loosest, rubberiest drawings of George I've ever seen - heck, that ALONE makes me want to see where this goes next...

J C Roberts said...

It always seemed pretty evident to me what the difference between storyboards and layouts was. The storyboards are more like a preliminary sketch, and layouts are closer to a direct guide to how the final scene is composed.

I'm guessing the number of panels increases because more of the key poses are created in the layout stage?

Are things established in the storyboards, like "body #5" carrying over through multiple facial expressions left for later stages, or is the same body drawn in in all of them?

tom said...

These are great. More please!

Taco Wiz A.K.A That One Guy said...

I understand, you probably never finsihed layouts, but did you finish boarding?

If you did, you should send digital copies of the entire storyboards to everyone who gives you 30 bucks. People will go NUTS.

David said...

Of course we want to see more!

Very interesting! And fun to see!

Erik B said...

Yeah upload the rest please! :D

Very cool poses and expressions.

Layouts explain what's going on a lot better than the story board. Every studio should have a similar sort of procces like that.I'd like to learn more about this stage of the production.

Trey Brown said...

please do! what did the hippy ladies not like about this one?

Nick said...

PLEASE post more story boards/layouts... anything that shows how you break down from concept to finished scene...

This is awesome.

akira said...

PLEASE!!! yes do upload the rest of the layouts!!! those drawings are so great! please upload as much as you would be willing to at as high quality as you would be willing to. thank you!!!!

akira said...

for lots of anime movies they release books containing the complete layouts for the whole animated movie... man, i would so LOOOVE a book with the layouts from some complete Ren and Stimpy cartoons!

Manuel said...

Yes please !

Nick said...

Hello John,I was just wodering if you are still using the MISTERCARTOON@AOL.COM email address? I was trying to get into contact with you about getting a commission. Thanks so much.

Nick said...

Oh yeah and YES! I would love to see the rest of these layouts. So cool to see the process.

Carmine said...

Wow, those are some amazing drawings. So the layouts were done by you?

I wish some of this stuff could be made into cartoons. Can't you independently produce some cartoon dvds and self distribute them? Does Nickelodeon or Viacom have to be involved to get any new Ren and Stimpy stuff made?? More George Liquor episodes would be the best!

Please put the rest up, they are great. Thanks.

Benjamin said...

These are great!

Roberto Severino said...

Yes, John. You need to upload the rest of these. They look way too good not to be shared. I could sure learn a lot by studying these carefully.

talkingtj said...

i can do that! i do it all the time! the posing the reactions, ive been storyboarding without knowing it!

Alex Jade said...

These are really insightful, it would be great if you could upload more :)

Josh K said...

This is really interesting, and would appreciate if you uploaded more.

I'm animating my graduation film at the moment and have followed a similar process as no one showed me in detail how to structure my production process and this way flows best for me.

Storyboard thumbnails -> animatic -> segment scenes into managable chunks -> layout/keyframe -> animte.

Is there an easier way?

kwig said...

I would absolutely love to see the rest of these. This is completely relevant to what I'm currently learning and I'm very interested in seeing exactly how to make the transition from storyboard to layouts.

Pedro Vargas said...

Yes, please, more! These are gorgeous drawings!!

Isaac said...

Were the storyboards made for the original Ren & Stimpy, and the layouts for APC?

Elana Pritchard said...

Ok, trying to clear up something in my brain here... After you do the layout drawings, are they then used as the key poses when animating? Or does everyone do it all over again? Or both?

And OF COURSE we want to see the rest of the drawings, you are a great actor :)

Nachotururu said...

yes, please! upload them all! so solid and alive. One can already see them moving... A pleasure to watch.

stefiecakes said...

I'd sure like to see more of these amazing layouts. I'm currently working on an animated music video for a friend of mine & watching your work always turns to be very damned inspiring!

Stephen said...

Yes, more please!

Trevor Thompson said...

I notice that these storyboard sketches are much less finished than the ones for 'Big House Blues'. Is it just because you had more time?

MistahB said...

Yes please, I'd enjoy that very much!

Scrawnycartoons said...

So layout is where you clean up the poses and expressions, which are kept rough on the storyboard? Never knew!

Great drawings to, the one of them creeping through the woods is solid I could almost reach in and smack Stimpy. Please upload any more you have!

By the way, Wilderness adventure supposedly came out season 4, does that mean you worked on it but Games animation finished it later?

JR said...

Please post the rest of it :)

Sean Lally said...

this is just great john! these are my favourite kinds of posts and i'm sure plenty of others feel the same way!

So whats the story on that spumco book anyways? please i really really need to know! i will buy it! i will pay you!!

zmerrill said...

"The cartoon was rejected 3 times in a row by hippie ladies who hate Republican men."

Now based on your experiences, what exactly made them "hippie ladies who hate Republican men" when they could be Republicans themselves simply using cautious business approaches whether the practices may be anti-Art or not?

Sergeant Blah! said...

Yeah, absolutely, I'd love to see more. Out of the entire animation process, the part that interests me most is taking the rough, energetic sketches from storyboards and trying to capture that in a much tighter design.

K-T said...

AS IF ANYONE WOULD SAY NO TO LAYOUTS AS BEAUTIFUL AS THESE.

YES JOHN, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD UPLOAD THE REST!!! THESE ARE FANTASTIC!!

Chris Real said...

This stuff is great John, please upload more!!

JohnK said...

"when they could be Republicans themselves simply using cautious business approaches"

they were definitely not Republican women (almost an oxymoron anyway)

and certainly not business oriented

Zartok-35 said...

Great stuff! These are beautiful drawings!

Isaak said...

Going back to the "old days"

Do you believe Clampett's employment as a "cel washer" improved his drawing skills?

Also, what do you think of Fritz Lang? He seems to be doing live action in the manner of macbre animation. Testament of Dr. Mabuse certainly has as wild a plot as Looney Tunes shorts, even Clampett.

Appreciate your responses, but understand you are busy.

P.S. Love the pictures

JohnK said...

Clampett started as an inbetweener and part time gag (story sketches) contributor.

Yes, learning how the production works from the bottom up definitely helps.

It was Chuck Jones who started as a cel washer and I'm sure that was helpful too because he could see how the drawings had to be simple and how they were colored.

Later when he started drawing, he was already familiar with the actual medium of animated cartoons.

and I like Fritz Lang a lot - but mostly his 40s and 50s stuff. Scarlet Street, Clash By Night...

JohnK said...

Let me add..

it not only "helps" to start at the bottom; I think it's essential.

Too many people start in positions that require knowledge of how animation works without ever getting that knowledge and experience.

Like writers, designers, storyboard artists.

Ideally, everyone should start by inbetweening for other animators and work their way up.

Paul B said...

Wow!
It's always good to see your process!
it's realy inspiring. Thank you so much John!

And yes! Please post all of them!

Paul B said...

George legs were reused?

they don't have the same indication like Ren or Stimpy, but they aren't drawn either.

Shawn Dickinson said...

AMAZING DRAWINGS!

Alex said...

Who'd have thunk it: a Ren & Stimpy we didn't know existed!

I will say that I noticed Stimpy's drawings look very contemporary, compared to George and Ren. Ren looks great, by the ways.

Sandra Rivas said...

Post more! These are great drawings!! Very cute ones of Ren!

Harmke said...

fun fun fun! more more more!

Harmke said...

Completely oftopic but John, I was wondering, what is your opinion about the whole 3D movie hype? (with the glasses). I've the feeling it's something the industry wants, but the consumer doesn't really care about. I'm unable to see the (what the industry says) 3D awesomeness, because one of my eyes is almost blind, so I don't care about 3D at all. Only thing I'm pissed about is that I have to watch movies in theater with stupid glasses on my nose and pay extra for something I can't even see :/.

zmerrill said...

"they were definitely not Republican women (almost an oxymoron anyway)

and certainly not business oriented"

So I take it that they were simply there to punch the clock everyday, and were not as goal-oriented as you. I can see that type of management reflects the output of mostly mediocre cartoons being produced. That's all I wanted to know.

Would you say John Lennon and/or Jimi Hendrix were exceptions to your hippie rule even though they were hippies?

Don't get me wrong, your cartoons are among my favorites and there are very few good cartoonists from any era that stand out to me.

JohnK said...

They might have looked like Hippies but they actually produced things. I doubt they would have stayed Hippies if they had lived to see what they wrought.

The Nick Hippie ladies did care about the product - at least in the first year. They just personally despised manly men and thought I was always promoting them in the cartoons - even though I was making fun of them while honoring them at the same time.

Harmke:

I haven't seen any of the 3d animated movies. I'm not against using 3d, if they would use it creatively, which I imagine is rare since even the 2d elements are extremely uninspired.

zmerrill said...

Personally, I don't think that it's right that they suppress any form of creativity whether it be humanity or whatever else, over their egotism.

"I'm not against using 3d, if they would use it creatively, which I imagine is rare since even the 2d elements are extremely uninspired."

Forgive me for taking your answer to Harmke, but do you think that the newer 3D animation produced for Gorillaz (e.g. "Stylo") is creative, and would a different culture contribute Jamie Hewlett's creative output as opposed to the American "Hippie system"?

marcushelbling said...

MORE MORE MORE MORE!!!!!

Such amazingness.

Martin Juneau said...

I agree with the majority here, please post more. Unfinished Ren and Stimpy episodes interest me a lot for the value you contribute with.

HemlockMan said...

Yeah, upload more of them. The faces are fantastic!

R.Dress said...

This is the best way to work. Great drawings man!