Wednesday, May 04, 2011

Real Animation

Here is my favorite run cycle from a Clampett cartoon:

I think it's Scribner. It's interesting how awkward (and sloppy) the individual frames are as opposed to how magnificently smooth and powerful the motion is.







There are 6 drawings on ones for each step.






The rest of the scene is great too. Such amazing force!

Full Clip







You can buy this set of rare Snafu cartoons on Amazon. This is the best set there is. All the cartoons are in prime shape and unlike the older Snafu sets, the films are not cropped. The whole image is sharp and full screen. All the cartoons are from the top animators and directors of the mid 40s - when animation was at its height. A killer collection.

There is a really cool UPA cartoon on here too.

NO DVNR!! They look just like the films themselves. better restoration than the actual Warner Bros. Looney Tunes sets.

34 comments:

Steven M. said...

I'm so getting that DVD.

Roberto Severino said...

Couldn't have said it any better myself. All the cartoons look fantastic. I was even watching a bunch of old Snafus on that same Thunderbean DVD yesterday. Timeless and brilliant material to study from. Do you think it would be possible to draw something like that Nazi soldier in a program like Harmony and get the same kinds of results, motion and animation wise?

JohnK said...

It would be possible if you were Rod Scribner, sure.

Peggy said...

Holy shit, he drew the hell outta that Nazi.

Herman G said...

So much life, the rage in that run then to look like puss with a beer belly after. Wow, gonna check out this dvd. Thanks for the info

ardy said...

Awesome post as usual. I'll have to pick up that DVD, I'm a huge fan of propaganda art. I even bought that book The Fine Art of Propaganda that Mr. Worth recommended on ASIFA.

There are a bunch of random video sites out there that have WB cartoons that were recorded on VHS straight from TV broadcasts, which still look better than the DVNR'd stuff, despite the VHS grain. Here's a side by side comparison. YouTube usually only has DVD rips.

Scrawnycartoons said...

No DVNR?? I can't believe what I'm reading! That's so great/unlike Warner bros. I'll have to get the set to see it for myself

Juz Capes said...

hey, they guy previously asking about 'LINE OF ACTION' check out the anticipation on the Snafu clip.

Juz Capes said...

love the helmet catching up with the head as well, then rolls on his head a bit before he sets off.

Nicholas said...

Do you have a link to the amazon set (for the referral rate)?

Damiano D said...

Oh man, love that run cycle! Scribner is amazing. I've been meaning to get that DVD for a while now.

Ian Lueck said...

I don't believe DVNR was used on the LT Golden Collections since volume 2. Of course, DVNR did affect some non-LT sets like Droopy, but that's another story.

Anyway, great (and funny) cartoon. Pretty much all of the Snafu cartoons are. I'm glad Steve Stanchfield picked up where WB left off in releasing these rare treasures, and in such fine condition.

Amir Avni said...

Way to go Steve Stanchfield!

J C Roberts said...

WB animation at it's peak. Good point about the individual frames. That's often the case in the classic Warners cartoons. Their animation and character acting was so strong you coulnd't notice it unless you looked at the stills. The Freleng cartoons were usually the only ones where it showed. Clampett's were composed and paced in a way that kept your eyes way too busy to see such rough spots.

Hard to blame the animators, though. Seems like it might have been in the cell inking process where the drawings got a bit loose. With Scribner animating for Clampett, you could have sent it off to the hacks that redrew those color Fleischer cartoons in the 70s and it would even have stood up to that fairly well.

Logan Ilczyszyn said...

They've recently become public domain and if you want to just check out a few just search snafu. The quality is amazing if you download the Divx version and its free, and for a poor artist like me thats a good deal.

http://www.archive.org/details/Pvt.SNAFU.FightingTools

David Germain said...

I don't believe DVNR was used on the LT Golden Collections since volume 2.

A little bit slipped through in Volume 3. It's evident in The Last Hungry Cat for example.

Yeah, that's Rod Scribner's animation all over that Nazi alright. Besides the inventive poses and the many wrinkles (especially in the shot where he's got his hands up in front of SNAFU), he's knashing his teeth the entire time. Scribner always had the characters knash their teeth whenever they were angry. He must have expressed anger that way in real life.

zmerrill said...

So this is a 6x beat? And why do the frames look rather ugly?

ari said...

the down pose on the right foot is tremendous, the knee is all bent out of shape. i'd probably lose my job if i tried that

/\/\ikeB said...

@ zmerril: not a beat, but a cycle. 6x strides is actually a standard textbook-run cycle, isn't it?

Zoran Taylor said...

Old-days cell artists get WAY too much flack for "sloppy" cleanups. They're drawing on a surface that is both slicker and more stubborn than paper, and they're controlling a semi-viscous fluid at the same time as they're trying to control the drawings. On top of that, they are attempting to painstakingly replicate a drawing which, however controlled, was wild, loose and spontaneous in the hand of the animator, sometimes even consisting of two or more aborted shots at a pose drifting around underneath a slightly-better-articulated finished one. And they're probably being made to work faster than the animators, since everybody assumes their part of the job requires next to no thought anyway.

YOU try that.

M. Phillips said...

that Nazi has some wicked tooth structure.

akira said...

i think i just bought the last one... thanks for the endorsement john, i've bought a bunch of those old cartoon dvds that were really crappy quality, so it's great to know the good ones!

zmerrill said...

I see that it's a cycle, but if there are 6 frames per 24 frames, then wouldn't it be equivalent to 6x, which is 4 beats per second?

Trevor Thompson said...

Any chance we'll ever see Coal Black on DVD?

becurt said...

Haha what a weird-ass run

Charles said...

Excellent frames, John! But I'd like to pose a question to you. Could you compose a working definition of "design" in terms of animation and why do you believe its important for artists to acknowledge. This may sound stupid but I'm often confused by the relevance of it and needed some clarification. Thanks

Gordeaux said...

Pete Emslie Feb 6th 2009; "The Dark Ages were extremely conservative times, and I lament that we are now beginning to repeat them as our recently departed hunger for skill, knowledge, curiosity and invention is being replaced by ignorance, amateurism, fear and imitation."
Not sure if my original post came through so I'll reiterate!
Sorry about being off subject but I am new to Johns Blog and have been reading through years of posts and have just come accross this one! I have to say I agree whole heartedly with Petes comments. If you do not agree I invite you to come to Australia and see the crap we pour out through our so called "Talent SHows" which are judged by the least talented MORONS you have ever seen! Lets get together and create a production company that uses only genuine talent!
Devolution is upon us!

Kriztoffer Swank said...

Which DVD is this exactly--the one entitled "War Cartoons: Classic WW2 Cartoons with Private Snafu, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, & More!"? Does it feature all the Snafu cartoons?

Kriztoffer Swank said...

Which DVD is this? Is it the one entitled "War Cartoons: Classic WW2 Cartoons with Private Snafu, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, & More!" Does it feature all the Snafu shorts?

Miles Long said...

I think that's a beautiful run. So powerful, so stylized. His whole upper body is twisting back and forth.

Gabe's Cartoons said...

This is one of the best uses of an entire page for a run cycle!

TWill said...

Well, I liked this run so much, that I decided to draw out the twelve frames and make my own cycle out of them.

Here it is

ANIMANOID said...

Clampett & Warner Animators :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ8KnHfiH4I

Ken said...

May 8th 2013.

Bob Clampett is 100 today.