tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post2715198367231753777..comments2007-03-18T21:20:58.670-07:00JohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-66070229783198234552007-03-18T20:31:00.000-07:002007-03-18T20:31:00.000-07:002007-03-18T20:31:00.000-07:00

When I supervise layout and posing, I go through the whole board myself and do a fairly close analysis to troubleshoot each sequence and find as many setups as I possibly can. Each artist on the team gets a copy of my analysis. Every reuse is clearly marked including its field size and its cropping in relation to the master scene.The board artist works quickly and lays down the broad strokes,

Jeffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16312638244978053980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-11238663264600088882007-03-15T23:22:00.000-07:002007-03-15T23:22:00.000-07:002007-03-15T23:22:00.000-07:00

John you are the BEST!!! I am bringing this into my storyboarding for Saturday morning cartoon class at the Academy. Thanks for the freebees...

Gavin Freitashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13085463383029726857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-81712993133258269162007-03-15T12:11:00.000-07:002007-03-15T12:11:00.000-07:002007-03-15T12:11:00.000-07:00

"They had crazy rules in TinyToons from what I hear from the artists who worked on it. Everything had to be hard to do, or it wouldn't get accepted. Something simple and entertaining was cheating. So the board artists developed tricks to fool the execs into thinking that their cartoons would call for the most expensive and time consuming techniques. Techniques that do not add up to entertainment

John Pannozzihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01533256044605730722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-52374966060964200082007-03-14T23:59:00.000-07:002007-03-14T23:59:00.000-07:002007-03-14T23:59:00.000-07:00

Thanks, this helps. :)

Hector Cortezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06321654133572446480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-74701103304811413322007-03-14T16:51:00.000-07:002007-03-14T16:51:00.000-07:002007-03-14T16:51:00.000-07:00

Thank you for sharing your vast knowledge and making our lives better.This blog is more valuable than a green haired fred flintstone toy!

Freckled Derelicthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06026247660227762916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-44663343702453178762007-03-14T16:42:00.000-07:002007-03-14T16:42:00.000-07:002007-03-14T16:42:00.000-07:00

Wickity Wack, thats right on track!Maaaann, i just read your notes, and I am aware of this stuff...using the knowledge in my own storyboards...BUT GUESS WHAT?!My partner goes and tells me yesterday that he has some bgs for me to colour for his next episode...I ask how many, he says 30! I instantly ask, didnt you have any re-uses?! WHAAAAAAAA! Im just glad they are simple ass backgrounds and like

Adele K Thomashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08264045605098396533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-41500898346527842862007-03-14T13:21:00.000-07:002007-03-14T13:21:00.000-07:002007-03-14T13:21:00.000-07:00

I LOVE your little lecture notes, John, thank you! Layouts are definitely my weak spot, so anything that explains how to do them simply and effectively is very much appreciated!I think there is a place in Tv animation for more sophisticated cinematography, but only used sparingly.Not to mention, animators LOATHE upshot-downshots. Perspective, argh!

Mebbohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17473418508367505543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-57996918901577126882007-03-14T11:12:00.000-07:002007-03-14T11:12:00.000-07:002007-03-14T11:12:00.000-07:00

thats the sort of information you only get from someone grizzled by decades of production work... so thank you!what if you were to develop a new technique with backgrounds, one that used paintings mapped onto very simple geometry that would be constrained in some way to camera, so that a 3/4 down shot would be no more expensive than any other shot? its all do-able now, and im surprised that no

davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00570049619456490628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-5764223086790214162007-03-14T10:45:00.000-07:002007-03-14T10:45:00.000-07:002007-03-14T10:45:00.000-07:00

This was a very informative post, and thanks for these notes!! I think I've watched "Boo Boo Runs Wild" more than any other cartoon Spumco has ever done, even more than Ren & Stimpy. It's just such a masterpiece and you maintained that entire Jellystone spirit. I'm going to print these out and add them to my binder, and watch the cartoon again, just to study how this all comes together.John,

Trevourhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02845538092699565554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-54498756995114269492007-03-14T07:55:00.000-07:002007-03-14T07:55:00.000-07:002007-03-14T07:55:00.000-07:00

Wow! Great stuff! I'm gonna use these lessons and advice in my current project. I'm making some storyboards for a piece I'm doing. And the only refference I've had are some animation books and some stuff I got from AKA Cartoons Inc Storyboarder's "test". Eh - it was free material to say the least. This is wonderful and golden stuff! Thanks lots! And now I can agree with your advice to

Tibbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08984726112824562659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-41428267490571053302007-03-14T06:13:00.000-07:002007-03-14T06:13:00.000-07:002007-03-14T06:13:00.000-07:00

john... An old master once told me: "if you wanna teach something, teach simple things... that is true knowledge...but if you don`t want to share knowledge, teach complicated things..."so thanks for allSL

Amblagarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15920421318190562442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-70579210527060480822007-03-14T03:05:00.000-07:002007-03-14T03:05:00.000-07:002007-03-14T03:05:00.000-07:00

G O L D D U S T .

Rafihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01093918436825880414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-17814134055890407842007-03-14T03:02:00.000-07:002007-03-14T03:02:00.000-07:002007-03-14T03:02:00.000-07:00

Some of the commentary on the Wacky Races dvd pretty much sums up the problem.Some of the old veterans who worked on WR like the now late Iwao Takamoto and Jerry Eisenberg talked about their experiences at these modern studios. They'd say "What's with all these complicated angles and whatnot? Just a straight-ahead ground level shot would do just like we did on the old cartoons." And the usual

David Germainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15242095374521702596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-38388672899831391792007-03-13T23:23:00.000-07:002007-03-13T23:23:00.000-07:002007-03-13T23:23:00.000-07:00

Wow!! Excellent manual, very clear. I love it when you post stuff like that!! :)Thanks SO much for this blog!

Brett W. Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12922714873314044947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-20013979313369675662007-03-13T23:22:00.000-07:002007-03-13T23:22:00.000-07:002007-03-13T23:22:00.000-07:00

I'm on a project now where everything you are talking about is happening. They expect a cartoon done in 6 days. Yet storyboards need to look "finished." Then someone thinks up a complex camera move, a crazy perspective, an insane effect to pull off, and sometimes crowd shots or mostly just over abundance of details. Like they forgot they had to do this stuff in 6 days. I wasn't sure if I was in

Mad Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13193795629253638143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-4547141370803666802007-03-13T22:33:00.000-07:002007-03-13T22:33:00.000-07:002007-03-13T22:33:00.000-07:00

Wow this will come in very handy. Thanks for this info Prof.K. Funny you mentioned Dic....Their scripts are sooo dry, It's a challenge to come up with character buisness with such dry script. I'll do my best to impliment what you teach into my work and I'll put it to use right off the bat. Looking forward to seeing what comes next.

Lion_0http://www.blogger.com/profile/00466264134895367078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-60271362635693101452007-03-13T22:17:00.000-07:002007-03-13T22:17:00.000-07:002007-03-13T22:17:00.000-07:00

I totally agree with the point that you make about how it certainly does not make a cartoon better to just put in a bunch of really complicated scenes, I tend to agree with a more minimalistic point of view for all types of art, cartooning is no exception. Point in case, look at a PSA from the 1950s, now look at a show like catdog or something, which is more entertaining? the PSA of course

applepwnzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14225043288971537215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-83270189071084218612007-03-13T22:01:00.000-07:002007-03-13T22:01:00.000-07:002007-03-13T22:01:00.000-07:00

Nice!Don't draw the background first, eh?Do you mean, when you're initially staging things, you should draw the characters first and then draw the background?

Raffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01680153957085998701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-85016878761840673362007-03-13T20:50:00.000-07:002007-03-13T20:50:00.000-07:002007-03-13T20:50:00.000-07:00

THAAAANKKK YOUUU JOHHNNNNN!!!!!Really! when you see a cartoon from early HB you didn't realize that actually they use few bg's, that's beacuse the characters and his performances keep us entertaining. this confirms moreover that to have little money it does not diminish the funny in a cartoon, but on the contrary, it should to increase it!this is use all the resources to entertain! even up to the

Paul Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17997041148630279249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-27589090505861407882007-03-13T20:49:00.000-07:002007-03-13T20:49:00.000-07:002007-03-13T20:49:00.000-07:00

Amazing.I can't believe you don't charge for this.Thank you.

stiffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00596099037495346548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-90386431775539999832007-03-13T19:57:00.000-07:002007-03-13T19:57:00.000-07:002007-03-13T19:57:00.000-07:00

whoa! this is amazing information. The crazy thing is that just watching Boo Boo Runs Wild last night for the first time in about a year. Wutter da chances!? Having a year's worth of this blog I in me, I was noticing all the recycling and amazed at how expressive everything was. Great posing really does go long way in limited ani.

NateBearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17020145920932782176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-22329225031349493582007-03-13T19:50:00.000-07:002007-03-13T19:50:00.000-07:002007-03-13T19:50:00.000-07:00

Great! Spend less time on more shots and more time on acting. Seemingly simple and common sense, but I didn't really think of making it a huge point.I gotta make a plug here: These boards are at the ASIFA archive. For this short, the other Ranger Smith one, and the one that never got made. If you can, drop by, say hey to Steve, and watch out for my saliva.

katzenjammer studioshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07821361991709824229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-62963414911308911652007-03-13T19:46:00.000-07:002007-03-13T19:46:00.000-07:002007-03-13T19:46:00.000-07:00

This might be one of the most useful things you've ever posted here. I always figured that straitforward is usually the smart way to go.I'd rather a cartoon do something simple well than something extravagent poorly.

Ian Mhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08531936750535538797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-19524890616538596332007-03-13T19:16:00.000-07:002007-03-13T19:16:00.000-07:002007-03-13T19:16:00.000-07:00

just what im working on now, perfect timing John. thanks:P

Piotrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13841513869991158616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-39159867455942537472007-03-13T18:47:00.000-07:002007-03-13T18:47:00.000-07:002007-03-13T18:47:00.000-07:00

I couldn't agree with you more on all the notes above. I don't like recycling facial expressions all that much but planning is key for the backgrounds. I can't tell you how many times I've received a BG and ad it intereferd with the characters.Most of this stuff can be identified and planned out at the storyboard stage without too many problems. I think a major problem is having separate

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