Alonso is the perfect name for a big blue gorilla with a squeaky voice.
I've actually used this kind of über-limited animation/quick cutting in an animation for a baseball stadium, without even realizing Roger Ramjet existed and did it way better. (it's here, if anyone cares).
I saw part of a Daffy cartoon today where a little bespectacled man was trying to cook him up, and there was a hilarious scene where Daffy molested the guy's nose with his tongue, but I missed the title--does anyone know which cartoon I'm talking about?
plz plz plz,answer me,which is the best software for 2d animation.i do 2d in flash but i want to know if there is any better way to do it.please please please answer my question this time atleast :(
Didn't you use that touching himself animation in one of the Ren & Stimpy's? I think it was either Black Hole or Marooned. I thought it was funny when I saw it there as a kid.
i can't get the animation to play on this computer. maybe wheniget back to the states.
anyway, i love the hand-painted feel of the stills. especially inthis sound effects cards where there are white smudges in the text. There's no way anyone would ever do that using a cintiq. It's too easy and efficient to use the fill tool, especially when you think, "Well they are only gonna see it fora split second, what's the difference?" Having to fill blocks of solid color by hand add depth to it. It reminds me of my first painting class in art school where the professor made us work on a single painting for the entire second semester and nothing else. He said that slowing down the process made us think about our actions and choices more. Give us time to dwell on ideas.
I have no idea how taht might apply to animation. I do knwo that Roger Ramjet is more appealing than almost any Flash animation. And Snow White looks better than any feature since.
ROGER RAMJET rules. I'm glad to see you endorsing this overlooked little gem. I bought the boxed set two years ago to get me thru a long freelance weekend and it brought back fond memories. It was also actually better than I remembered it being.
I don't know why I like this better than any Jay Ward cartoon but I always did and still do (although I admire Jay Ward and what he stood for). In ROGER the whole sound-track and humor have a casual laid-back style that is missing from the more elbow-in-the-ribs style of BULLWINKLE and GEORGE OF THE JUNGLE.
It sure as hell seems more like a scripted cartoon than a storyboard driven one to me though.
tanisha said... plz plz plz,answer me,which is the best software for 2d animation.i do 2d in flash but i want to know if there is any better way to do it.....well i'm by no means an expert (on anything)but it doesn't seem as though anyone else wants to take the time, sooo...you're stuck with my input(sorry)-for me flash has a cheesy kind stink to it,it can be made to look good,sure,but you're going to end up doing most of the drawing the traditional way on paper and scanning it into the computer if you want to look like anything,and bandwidth really isn't as much of an issue as it once was,so i mean,you can spend your time managing assets and tweaking libraries,to kinda sorta get what you want,or you can spend a couple of minutes with a pencil and paper and get exactly what you want(the wacom tablet is an awsome tool, but no substitute].since you already use flash,you shuould have already read "hollywood 2d digital animation-the new flash revolution" 2004 by sandro cosaro and clifford j. parrot- it does a great job of streamlining the prodution pipeline in flash and there's some pretty tight stuff in there,as well as some ok general animation production info as well(read it!),economic issues aside though i'm still kinda partial to the photoshop/after effects/final cut combo, as it allows for infinite possibilities visually,the problem that comes with that though,is that the interfaces aren't streamlined for animation purposes so the learning curve will be steeper,but a good place to START would be the Kit Laybourne book "the ANIMATION BOOK-SECOND EDITION" from crown publishing group.another option is the dedicated 2D animation software MIRAGE from Bauhaus software,it's been building some momentum lately....but really what it comes down to is it's not the technology or the tools you use but the skills and imagination and experience(both animation and LIFE )that matter most....trite but true.there's soooo much to learn in so many different areas that it's easy to get bogged down with things that don't really matter in the end.whatever path you take stay grounded in the basics - not much help i know,but until others find the time to jump in it's all you get for now-oh and no refunds! the money's already spent!
I loved this cartoon, I forgot about it untill john posted about it. The animation(or lack of!)suits it perfectly and just adds to its charm- goes to show you sometimes less is more.
Look at these great drawings! Anyone know who did 'em?
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I must buy these DVD's.
The 13th principle of animation should be the idiot bump.
I couldn't find that cartoon in the box set. Then I noticed it was on another DVD. And has commentary by Gary Owens. I'll have to get that one too.
Thanks John.
Alonso is the perfect name for a big blue gorilla with a squeaky voice.
I've actually used this kind of über-limited animation/quick cutting in an animation for a baseball stadium, without even realizing Roger Ramjet existed and did it way better. (it's here, if anyone cares).
I saw part of a Daffy cartoon today where a little bespectacled man was trying to cook him up, and there was a hilarious scene where Daffy molested the guy's nose with his tongue, but I missed the title--does anyone know which cartoon I'm talking about?
Stiff, the cartoon you are referring to is The Wise Quacking Duck (by Bob Clampett c. 1943).
Speaking of '60's Sat AM cartoons and innuendo...would love to see a John K. version of Wacky Races. An updated NASCAR version, even.
This episode is too funny- how could one not like, "HURT?"
plz plz plz,answer me,which is the best software for 2d animation.i do 2d in flash but i want to know if there is any better way to do it.please please please answer my question this time atleast :(
I'm pretty sure this is a Bob Kurtz episode.
No,no,no..
Sorry john but I really don't see what you find good in this animated radio show.
Call me retard if you want.
I have to say it. There, now I feel much better.
I fail you.So I'll go shoot myself.
any modern cartoons you find funny?
Didn't you use that touching himself animation in one of the Ren & Stimpy's? I think it was either Black Hole or Marooned. I thought it was funny when I saw it there as a kid.
i can't get the animation to play on this computer. maybe wheniget back to the states.
anyway, i love the hand-painted feel of the stills. especially inthis sound effects cards where there are white smudges in the text. There's no way anyone would ever do that using a cintiq. It's too easy and efficient to use the fill tool, especially when you think, "Well they are only gonna see it fora split second, what's the difference?" Having to fill blocks of solid color by hand add depth to it. It reminds me of my first painting class in art school where the professor made us work on a single painting for the entire second semester and nothing else. He said that slowing down the process made us think about our actions and choices more. Give us time to dwell on ideas.
I have no idea how taht might apply to animation. I do knwo that Roger Ramjet is more appealing than almost any Flash animation. And Snow White looks better than any feature since.
...besides The Thief and The Cobbler. And that also had a bit of time to percolate, I believe.
that whole thief and the cobbler story is hilarious, guy works 20 years on something and when it comes out people think its a cheap aladdin cashgrab
ROGER RAMJET rules. I'm glad to see you endorsing this overlooked little gem. I bought the boxed set two years ago to get me thru a long freelance weekend and it brought back fond memories. It was also actually better than I remembered it being.
I don't know why I like this better than any Jay Ward cartoon but I always did and still do (although I admire Jay Ward and what he stood for). In ROGER the whole sound-track and humor have a casual laid-back style that is missing from the more elbow-in-the-ribs style of BULLWINKLE and GEORGE OF THE JUNGLE.
It sure as hell seems more like a scripted cartoon than a storyboard driven one to me though.
--Horst
tanisha said... plz plz plz,answer me,which is the best software for 2d animation.i do 2d in flash but i want to know if there is any better way to do it.....well i'm by no means an expert (on anything)but it doesn't seem as though anyone else wants to take the time, sooo...you're stuck with my input(sorry)-for me flash has a cheesy kind stink to it,it can be made to look good,sure,but you're going to end up doing most of the drawing the traditional way on paper and scanning it into the computer if you want to look like anything,and bandwidth really isn't as much of an issue as it once was,so i mean,you can spend your time managing assets and tweaking libraries,to kinda sorta get what you want,or you can spend a couple of minutes with a pencil and paper and get exactly what you want(the wacom tablet is an awsome tool, but no substitute].since you already use flash,you shuould have already read "hollywood 2d digital animation-the new flash revolution" 2004 by sandro cosaro and clifford j. parrot- it does a great job of streamlining the prodution pipeline in flash and there's some pretty tight stuff in there,as well as some ok general animation production info as well(read it!),economic issues aside though i'm still kinda partial to the photoshop/after effects/final cut combo, as it allows for infinite possibilities visually,the problem that comes with that though,is that the interfaces aren't streamlined for animation purposes so the learning curve will be steeper,but a good place to START would be the Kit Laybourne book "the ANIMATION BOOK-SECOND EDITION" from crown publishing group.another option is the dedicated 2D animation software MIRAGE from Bauhaus software,it's been building some momentum lately....but really what it comes down to is it's not the technology or the tools you use but the skills and imagination and experience(both animation and LIFE
)that matter most....trite but true.there's soooo much to learn in so many different areas that it's easy to get bogged down with things that don't really matter in the end.whatever path you take stay grounded in the basics - not much help i know,but until others find the time to jump in it's all you get for now-oh and no refunds! the money's already spent!
I loved this cartoon, I forgot about it untill john posted about it. The animation(or lack of!)suits it perfectly and just adds to its charm- goes to show you sometimes less is more.
thanks ginomc,i soon will buy ''THE ANIMATION BOOK''.your advice is invaluable.its so nice of you.thanks for being so brief.
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