Saturday, March 06, 2010

Warren Buffet Agrees:

Amir Avni sent me this:

Hi John,

I just read an article with a genius quote from Warren Buffet:

“We found that the real trick in business is not to be a genius yourself but to go around associating with geniuses who are already doing a good job and stay out of their way.”

This directly relates to all you've said about the environment/conditions in which the greatest cartoons where created (Schlesinger's studio, etc..)
I hope we can find someone like Warren Buffett who wants to make cartoons!


Warren and Amir each deserve a Slimy for that:


HemlockMan said...

Nice quote. Makes sense.

Austin Papageorge said...

Let it also be said that talented people should try to find an unobtrusive billionaire to finance their projects.

But the way, are Slimies moldable?

Fabián Fucci said...


Mr. Warren Buffet has a grandaughter who is herself an artist, and he doesn't live up to his own words as he ignores and diminishes her in his very own way.

She may be a genius or not, depending on taste.">

RooniMan said...

It all makes adds up now! Thank you Mr. Buffet.

A.M.Bush said...

Fabian, did you even read that article?

Warren Buffet didn't make that quote in reference to art, Amir only pointed out that it could be used as a reference to art.

I've read an article on Warren Buffet's granddaughter before, she's pretty much some hippy that went around bad mouthing him for money and publicity. Just because he's her grandfather and wealthy (they're not even biologically related), doesn't obligate him to provide money for her.

Amir Avni said...

John- glad you like it, and thanks for posting!

A.M.Bush- thank you for the good points!

Mykal said...

John: Irregardless about wayward daughters( biological or otherwise), I have to laugh about Buffett’s quote regarding success in business. Letting other folks work unhampered is certainly not the way he became wealthy. That may be how one stays rich, but no one gets rich that way. I think my favorite Buffett quote is: “I’ll tell you why I like the cigarette business. It costs a penny to make. Sell it for a dollar. It’s addictive. And there’s fantastic brand loyalty.” Pure, 100% shark. You gotta love it.

Amir: just visited your blog. Very nice stuff! -- Mykal

Yowp said...

John, so long as entertainment corporations willingly go through endless cover-your-ass hoops to make even the most timid decision, creativity will be stifled.


EZ Goodnight said...

There's sort of two trends in management--one is control based, the other based on respecting employees creativity and intelligence, allowing them to keep themselves motivated and more or less manage themselves. It's pretty obvious that control based management kills creativity and is totally wrong for artists (as well as most people).

Daniel Pink wrote a great book called "Drive" about this sort of thing, if you're interested.

kurtwil said...

This brings memories of Walt Disney who, like a very few producers, wanted to accomplish something, realized he couldn't do it alone, and either found or created the employee talent to make it happen.

However, when the focus changed (Walt: from animation to theme park, F.Zappa: from rock guitar to Synclaver, etc.), opportunities change and often the previous focus area "freezes" or ends. In many cases employees can adapt (M. Davis was flexible enough to contribute to theme park design, etc.).

Also reminds me of the past JK and RB situations where (for varied reasons) Creativity and artist training was possible.

It seems for classic animation, all that's left are a number of helpful blogs (especially this one), college collaborations, small-scale production efforts (What happened to Last Days of Coney Island?), and possibly Disney (I remember they once had a pilot program doing experimental classic animation for commercials, shorts, etc - what happened to that stuff??).

Where is the Buffet style environment for classic animation today?

Mykal said...

Kurtwil (and anyone): Am I wrong in thinking that Walt Disney was a very controlling individual? I have always read that he sought to tightly control product and talent. My impression was that he hired brilliant people, always, and was very much the over-the-shoulder overseer; that is, he directed them very strictly. The folks that I know that have worked for Disney do not speak of an unrestrictive work environment. All speak of their time at Disney as being very important to them, and very lucrative - but not exactly free and unhampered. They quit (never in a huff) just because the sought more artistic freedom and control (themselves).

JohnK said...

I'm sure that was true of Walt himself, but he built that studio and set the standards and trained everyone. He had every right to control it. If he had questionable taste, well that's another story.

The people that came after are very different. They had nothing to do with building the studio, had no respect for its traditions or standards and brought an inhuman committee executive and lawyer mentality to the product.

I see no resemblance between the output of the 2 different Disneys.

The second one is just an expensive version of Saturday Morning cartoon thinking.

The first is a direct reflection of an individual's point of view, coupled with a very high standard of skill and professional standards.

Mykal said...

JohnK: I agree completely (for what it's worth) about Walt Disney's complete right to control what was his, and also about his very high standard of skill and professionalism. Agree also about what came after. What's interesting to me, I guess, is how long the Disney franchise has been successful, even though, (particularly in recent years) the franchise hasn't been a haven for wild creativity. Is it simply the power of the dynamo (the dynamo that ate Marvel!)? Just too much forward momentum to be denied? -- Mykal

kurtwil said...

Yes, JK, the two Disney studios (Walt and post-Walt) are vastly different.

Mykal, the bios on Disney suggest as his career progressed, Walt felt he sometimes lost control of his creations (Oswald Rabbit, for one), or his employees (the 1940's strikes).

Walt had one big source of help: his brother, Roy, instrumental in getting Walt financing needed to keep the studio open.
This brotherly bond stayed strong, unlike the Fleischers whose breakup proved a major factor in their studio's demise.

Also, two films based on "heart" rather than cartoony stuff kept Walt going: "Snow White", and "Cinderella". I keep wondering when(or if) we'll see an animated film that truly captures both.

Albert said...

This is not surprising, considering the number of underrated yet creative games he has worked on (sans Deus Ex, which is a tad overrated).

I love reading up on your blog, john, but what are those rubber toys you keep posting pics of?