This may not be a 100.00% authentic Hip Hop song (maths rap maybe) but it is made with the aid of computors, and it's pretty funny: Hard n' Phirm As a true-blue dyed-in-the-wool Kiwi New Zealander I am aware it's my patriotic duty to gush over the Flight of the Conchords, but I can't because the Benka Boradovsky Bordello Band is in fact THE best band EVER. If these drunken gypsies don't make you smash your computor and dance on the keyboard I'll eat my hat.
For what it's worth I agree with you that there are certainly levels of musicality and appreciable differences in talent and its application. We all know that 98% of everything produced isn't worth mentioning, but not understanding the metrics of quality in different formats isn't a mark of superiority in others. I do believe that at some point you just have to say, "I find no appreciable value in what is being represented." But for some people the metrics are going to be different, the life experiences are different and the emotional response is different. A lot of people that might really be on Dead Prez's wavelength might have not have any respect for Patsy Cline. I am not trying to create a false equivalency, I think you have already put that out there. For the record, I enjoy both Dead Prez and Patsy Cline for completely different reasons.
Dang, 4 posts in one day. Mr. John, I have a question. Imagine that in another dimension you decided to become a professional rapper, you give up most other activities to pursue this. keeping in mind that you actually would rap, "What would you do to become the greatest rapper of all time?"
No pressure, but I really want to hear your answer.
John, congratulations on new heights of trolling. The way you've so economically twisted perfectly valid points into such demented and irritating forms is masterful, as evidenced by the bumper crop of retarded comments from both 'sides' of the 'argument'. I salute you! <^_^/
They all swear they are the only legitimate ones and everyone else is a sellout to whitey or the man
they are all equally preposterous, sound exactly the same, and their disciples all argue about which one is the great 2%
Even as someone who likes hip hop, I'm inclined to agree on this to some degree and the general conservatism that the scene's fallen into.
The actions of most rappers who feel like the scene has lost direction, isn't to move it forward in a different direction, but instead to fall back to some mis-perceived "old school".
Similarly, when someone like Cee-Lo, moves from rapping to a more singing delivery (both in solo material and with Gnarls Barkley), he gets derided from portions of the rap press because he's not delivering the same material he'd done for the previous portion of his career (not to mention for daring to work with a producer who didn't start in hip-hop).
And of course the worst crime of daring to appeal to people who don't normally like rap.
John, do you like any funk, soul, disco, or (original) electro/techno? If no, I wouldn't waste my time trying to show you the light since this is what Hip Hop derives from. If yes, then there may still be hope. Let me know...
I hate to belabor this point any more, but I feel the need to share my idea of the 2%. For the record, I don't think that flashing "subversive" text on the screen makes a song thoughtful or otherwise good. And yeah, the extent to which everyone in hip hop says that everyone else sucks is ridiculous. Which is why this collaboration of two very talented poets doesn't suck, in my opinion. There's more that doesn't suck, but I'm just gonna let it rest.
thats deffinitely rap but then he's got stuff like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0F9p5IjSc
so you can't say he only talks or whatever you were bitchin' at. any complaints about him? at least he doesn't do the "i'm the only one thats legit" thing. anyway get back to me on this
John, if you like funk then you might enjoy some of this (by the way, the top 2% suggestions have been WAY off...doesn't seem like people here know much about Hip Hop):
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Hip Hop bands remind me of religions.
They all swear they are the only legitimate ones and everyone else is a sellout to whitey or the man
they are all equally preposterous, sound exactly the same, and their disciples all argue about which one is the great 2%
What about one of the influences on hiphop, Kraftwerk?
Trans Europe Express (1977)
Die Roboter (1978)
;)
@John: is there any European music you like?
This may not be a 100.00% authentic Hip Hop song (maths rap maybe) but it is made with the aid of computors, and it's pretty funny: Hard n' Phirm As a true-blue dyed-in-the-wool Kiwi New Zealander I am aware it's my patriotic duty to gush over the Flight of the Conchords, but I can't because the Benka Boradovsky Bordello Band is in fact THE best band EVER. If these drunken gypsies don't make you smash your computor and dance on the keyboard I'll eat my hat.
Except the Beatles.
Should go to bed now.
Best/Worst Rap Sing Of All Time!!!!
And whattabout Dälek?
But seriously, there should be more twelve-tone-music in ads, shows etcs. :(
Like this one - Timeless but so abandoned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACCAF04wSs&feature=channel_page
By sing I meant "song" by best/worst, I meant "wrong"!!
Spliff: Das Blech
I guess you didnt even listen to what they were saying or pay attention to the messages displayed thoughout the video.
I did and the message I heard was, "other hip hop is bad" "ours is the real thing"
which I've heard a million times before
what I still haven't heard - is music
or anything that sounds different than the other videos people send me
For what it's worth I agree with you that there are certainly levels of musicality and appreciable differences in talent and its application. We all know that 98% of everything produced isn't worth mentioning, but not understanding the metrics of quality in different formats isn't a mark of superiority in others. I do believe that at some point you just have to say, "I find no appreciable value in what is being represented." But for some people the metrics are going to be different, the life experiences are different and the emotional response is different. A lot of people that might really be on Dead Prez's wavelength might have not have any respect for Patsy Cline. I am not trying to create a false equivalency, I think you have already put that out there. For the record, I enjoy both Dead Prez and Patsy Cline for completely different reasons.
So far, John did not get the message
Enough fooling around. Good night!
One last thing:
Be somebody!
Mr.T is the best rapper in the world...
Well, I'm no musical connoisseur, but this is my favorite rap song.
Well, I liked the first 5 seconds... Then they cut to half-naked men making angry, derivative noises.
Shut up, get off and show the girl again! That should be the motto all rap videos strive to live by.
this is about the only thing that 99.9% of rap is good for...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21OH0wlkfbc
laughing at!
Dang, 4 posts in one day. Mr. John, I have a question. Imagine that in another dimension you decided to become a professional rapper, you give up most other activities to pursue this. keeping in mind that you actually would rap, "What would you do to become the greatest rapper of all time?"
No pressure, but I really want to hear your answer.
None of this new school beats this old school:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pK_9hlo4GI
Funky beat w/ lyrics that are an ear treat ;)
No swearing in this one John (the De La Soul one).
Don't dismiss rap out of hand. It brings joy to many people.
Like cops.
In East New York cops know the showtimes of Biggie Smalls BioPic "Notorious" at the local theater.
When the show lets out it is easy to make a weed collar.
Also, many of the hip hop siskel and eberts like to show their enthusiasm by shooting guns into the air. That's quite an endorsement!
Speaking of Biggie, where else would you find a song about the "10 Commandments" of selling crack cocaine?
"Seven: this rule is so underrated
Keep your family and business completely seperated
Money and blood don't mix like two d*cks and no b*tch"
I would never, say, make love to a woman while listening to this song. But I sure appreciate the word play!
John, congratulations on new heights of trolling. The way you've so economically twisted perfectly valid points into such demented and irritating forms is masterful, as evidenced by the bumper crop of retarded comments from both 'sides' of the 'argument'. I salute you! <^_^/
Hip Hop bands remind me of religions.
They all swear they are the only legitimate ones and everyone else is a sellout to whitey or the man
they are all equally preposterous, sound exactly the same, and their disciples all argue about which one is the great 2%
Even as someone who likes hip hop, I'm inclined to agree on this to some degree and the general conservatism that the scene's fallen into.
The actions of most rappers who feel like the scene has lost direction, isn't to move it forward in a different direction, but instead to fall back to some mis-perceived "old school".
Similarly, when someone like Cee-Lo, moves from rapping to a more singing delivery (both in solo material and with Gnarls Barkley), he gets derided from portions of the rap press because he's not delivering the same material he'd done for the previous portion of his career (not to mention for daring to work with a producer who didn't start in hip-hop).
And of course the worst crime of daring to appeal to people who don't normally like rap.
John, do you like any funk, soul, disco, or (original) electro/techno? If no, I wouldn't waste my time trying to show you the light since this is what Hip Hop derives from. If yes, then there may still be hope. Let me know...
I like a few early funk songs, yeah. I'm not big into it, but like it when they play it on the oldies stations.
I like a lot of kinds of music from different eras.
that's like saying all cartoons look the same. And the only art worth looking at is old masters. your being as ignorant as some rappers.
I hate to belabor this point any more, but I feel the need to share my idea of the 2%. For the record, I don't think that flashing "subversive" text on the screen makes a song thoughtful or otherwise good. And yeah, the extent to which everyone in hip hop says that everyone else sucks is ridiculous. Which is why this collaboration of two very talented poets doesn't suck, in my opinion. There's more that doesn't suck, but I'm just gonna let it rest.
i'm suprised nobody has mentioned this feller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJN3PGqDRNg
thats deffinitely rap but then he's got stuff like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0F9p5IjSc
so you can't say he only talks or whatever you were bitchin' at. any complaints about him? at least he doesn't do the "i'm the only one thats legit" thing. anyway get back to me on this
John, if you like funk then you might enjoy some of this (by the way, the top 2% suggestions have been WAY off...doesn't seem like people here know much about Hip Hop):
http://www.turntablelab.com/search/index.html?search_field=de+la+soul§ion=&type=more&page=1&reviews=&s=1&action=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY0c2ZAeMK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRC4ziQpb5I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46c8AqzjLCg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdHhdpiGIas&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIc_rVKGA1g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAfrhmIvZ_s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkPsYvOgTtI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuhaFdBuwp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kokGh5XWQ8U&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASjH7X-jAY4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzndS93f15M&feature=related
That's a warm up. Let me know if you want to hear more...
That video is a great reference for caricatures! Just look at all the absurd, cartoonish faces they make.
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